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2 weeks in France expenditures

Since there are often posters wondering what it costs to travel in Europe, I thought I’d post our recent two week trip to France. With added comments as others may travel more/less frugally. This does not include getting to Europe. There are two of us.

Destinations- Lago Maggiore- Beaune- Rouen- Normandy- Mont St Michele, Loire- Chamonix- Lago Maggiore.

Transportation
$256- Car Rental (auto Europe). Picked up and dropped off in Northern Italy. Included CDW with deductible
$300- gas - Fiat diesel station wagom 2800km)
$320 - tolls ($90 was RT tunnel between Italy and France)
Since we are travelling with our dog, train would have been slightly less costly from Italy, but more inconvenient.

Hotels 12 nights
$1624
We mostly used booking.com a few days in advance to day of stay. A few hotels we added a day after We arrived and hotel honored the booking.com rate. We filtered by pet friendly, so some options were not shown. On average we paid €5-10 per night for our dog, and a few hotels charged for Parking. There were also a couple bar bills added to hotel bill.
Splurged one night on a mind blowing Chateau on the Loire (€148€)
These were the nighly rates in Euros before dog, parking, and other.
70, 68. 78, 78, 96,96,96, 104, 148, 128, 100, 78.

Food and other
$1300 (average 100/day -13 days)
We normally spend around $250/week for spending money, so the food/other trip costs were $800 more than staying home
Estmated we spent around $250 on admissions, castles, museums, gondola, etc.
A few lunches were picnics, or sandwiches. Wine/beer nearly every afternoon, wine/beer with dinner.
One very expensive dinner at mind blowing Chateau ($180), a few 3 course menu dinners.

Also included 3 bottles of wine ftom Burgundy $100)

Hope this might be helpful to those working on budgets. Happy to answer any questions.

Total trip cost- $3850
Actual cost after two week at home expenses ($3350)

Posted by
11300 posts

You did very well on lodging and food especially considering you seem to have stayed in hotels and not apartments.

I am about to finish the math on our 7-week, 2-country trip but I think we stayed under $100/day for food even though we spent 3 weeks in Switzerland. We had one apartment that was a splurge for us, and one 2-night hotel splurge. Ya' gotta treat yourselves now-and-then.

Posted by
3940 posts

I should really sit down and figure mine out - I have an expense app where I kept track of everything...that would be a good weekend project for me!

Posted by
619 posts

Why spoil a good trip by working out how much it cost.

Posted by
5579 posts

Great, helpful info, thanks, though Bob has a good point, too. ;) I just wanted to say that I have used booking. com without any complaints. However, when I can, I book directly with the property. This often gets me a lower rate or some little perk and the property earns more money. For me, this is a way to help some of these smaller properties survive. I also tend to do some emailing with the properties before I arrive and booking thru them sets up a dialog. Questions like, the best way to get from the train station, advice on prepurchase of tickets, location of food markets, anything else that comes up. I just recently asked the innkeeper in Grazelema, Spain, advice on parking in Zahara where we will stop on the way. Not only did he answer that question, he provided some sight seeing tips, and directions for the scenic route to his property. Also, it hasn't happened, but I would imagine that communication with the property prior to arrival might signal some red flags which could indicate a change of property might be a good idea. Lastly, I reconfirm directly with the property, a couple weeks before my stay so that there are no surprises. So while booking.com has its place ,I just would suggest contacting the inn directly when possible.

Posted by
1626 posts

Since we were booking so close to our stay, and only received emails when on wifi, booking.com allowed us more flexibility to book without waiting for a response. We were traveling with my brother and sister in law, and were following their style of flexible travel and hotel reservations.. When booking further in advance, i try to book direct directly with hotel.

Posted by
3940 posts

I like knowing how much we spent because I'm just nerdy like that...it's interesting to me to see how much we spent on food/accoms/whatever.

Posted by
5697 posts

I keep everything on Quicken, and just code items to specific trips (like "Vienna 2017") as they are downloaded from my credit card statements. ATM cash withdrawals posted from bank statement. But I don't look at the total costs until the trip is done - we just have a feeling for expense levels we're comfortable with, and agree on an occasional "splurge."
So I can't say x on meals, y on entertainment -- just $xxxx for four weeks. (Easy to break out airfare, trains, car rental, hotels -- it's that "cash" portion that gets messy.)

Posted by
27062 posts

I jot down expenses in a little spiral notebook that stays in my hotel room. I'm not sure why, except that I also note the names of hotels and restaurants, and occasionally I want to mention one of those places on this forum. Without my notebook I wouldn't remember what I ate or where I ate it. I'd be reduced to consulting Google Maps, and I wouldn't be able to say anything at all about costs.

Posted by
3940 posts

I do that as well, acraven...then transfer into my budget app. And I do usually like to put the restaurant and whatnot...then when I go back and am doing up my trip memories, it helps me to remember a little clearer what we did that day.

I did use an app that was just called Spending...it is nice because you could categorize items (food, transport, souvenirs) and then see a pie chart/percentages.

Last trip I used one called Fudget. It's nice and basic...but I do kinda miss being able to categorize, but it's no muss no fuss.

For the record, our trip in July with about 12 nights, in France and London, for 2, (including airfare) was about $6800 cdn. (Approx 5200 USD). Airfare to get to Europe was $2000 of that. Plus we had airfare within Europe and a car rental.

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So I was checking my Fudget budget and there is a chart! But you can’t categorize, but I did see that our flight over was 30% of the budget...toss in our Brit Air flight and our seat selections and I’m sure just airplanes was just over 40% of our trip. Our round trip BA flight was about 575, seat selection 115, and seat selection on Air Canada 225 (yes, it was worth it...paid extra for the extra leg room seats).

Our accoms were about 950 cdn $ (Nice 1 nt 140...Salon 4 nts 300...Manosque 3 nts 165...London 3 nts 350)

Tolls and parking €100 Gas €175 (I later did a mass conversion of € & £ to cdn $ to get my approx total). Car rental ran about $550 cdn.

Food...in the south of France we actually did ok (I’m including things like slushies and snacks purchased while sightseeing and groceries purchased for eating at Airbnb) averaging about $60 cdn a day ($30 each). We did some of our own cooking, which helped a lot...a bag of pasta and sauce was a couple bucks and made 3 meals.

London was a whole other matter. Our exch rate sucks and for our 3 nights there (including eating at the airport on arrival and departure day) we averaged $120 (one meal alone was about 80 cdn, but we said the hell with it).

Posted by
3551 posts

Nice to see documentation of how it is done as many on this site ask for estimates. For many yrs now in europe i have been averaging no more than 150 usd per day pp when 2 are traveling. Some with car rental and train incl. As costs are increasing i have actually tried hostels in switzerland. I have been pleased and find them efficient , clean, and economical. I never thought i would turn to them but many are highly rated. And even as a senior it was fine to stay there. Ie. Ehrenberg, Laussane all were private rooms but share on showers.
Not a prob. It has always been summer time and i never had trouble getting a shower avail.

Posted by
9549 posts

I often forget to compare against what I would have spent anyway had I remained at home. That is a good point and a good thing to remember! That some of the money you're spending, you would have spent anyway.