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1 Trip or 2 Back-to-Back legs?

Hello again -

Working on the details of the trip (original 21ish days to London, Paris, Amsterdam, Munich/Salzburg area, Venice, Florence, Rome - see earlier thread). After making cuts and some important considerations - I am thinking I might need to break it up into two legs (or one leg and focus on that, bonus if I can do the second leg too).

Considerations: I am Deaf, (going blind) and will be going with a group of Deaf/Hearing folks (the trip will be set up through a Deaf travel agency). Most of those going can go up to 21 days (actually 18 1/2 days if one thinks about it). I can do longer, but need to keep costs down and timing for them. Hence the back-to-back legs (2 groups with option for those like me to go on both legs).

Since I already cut Switzerland for the first trip, I am thinking of cutting Amsterdam and save that for when I can go and do Keukenhof for the tulips. That leaves the first leg: the 21 days to London, Paris, Rome, Florence, and Venice. Would that be more manageable? (That would also solve my "Paris dilemma" over in the France forum (re: Versailles) and keep Versailles after all, and spread out the London activities a bit).

The second leg - most likely 10 days (8 not counting to/from days) would cover the Bavarian Alps area - ie Munich, Salzburg, Neuschwanstein/Hohenschwangau, and possible a town on the German side (that resembles Rothenburg ob der Tauber or my Playmobil villages/castle) and Halstatt on the Austrian side as day trips?

So with that mind -
Day 1 Arrive in London
Day 2-5 in London
Day 6 transfer to Paris; 1/2 day Paris
Day 7-10 in Paris
Day 11 travel day
Day 12-13 Venice
Day 14 transfer/ 1/2 day (most likely Venice)
Day 15-16 Florence
Day 17 transfer/ 1/2 day (most likely Florence)
Day 18-20 Rome
Day 21 Rome/flight or move on to next leg.

Thoughts? As much as I would love to squeeze in the others, I would rather have quality time and take my time rather than rush through the cities... If someone has a better solution, please do share!

('m fine with the long rail day - I see it as a day of rest to catch up on journaling and chatting with folks - I did the 10 hours between my hometown and Washington DC solo and survived with sanity intact).

Posted by
1237 posts

My thoughts are you have allotted 4 days for London and Paris, but only 2 days for Venice, Florence, and Rome.

Since I've not been to London or Paris, I don't know how much time one should visit. I do know Italy, though, and 2 days, IMO, is not enough.

Maybe delete one city, or take a day from London and Paris and add to Italy. I personally would add to Venice and Rome, I know others would probably say Florence. It all depends on what your interests are.

Sounds like a wonderful trip, have fun!

BTW, I loved Rothenburg ob der Tauber!

Posted by
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The reason that London and Paris are heavy as there are tons of things I want to do in those two cities. Rome does have 3 full days. Venice and Florence both have 2.5 days as there are fewer things I want to do in those cities.

London: Tower of London/London Bridge, St. Paul Cathedral, British Museum, Harry Potter studio tour, Westminster Abbey, Big Ben, Hyde Park/Kensington Gardens, London Eye, Harrods, Changing of the Guards, British Library....

Paris: Eiffel Tower, Trocadero, Seine River cruise, Louvre, D'Orsay, Versailles, Jardin des Tuilleries, Jardin du Luxembourg, Notre Dame, Arc de Triomphe/Champs Elysees, Les Invalides, Palais Garnier, Montmartre/Sacre Coeur.

Both Harry Potter and Versailles are technically all-day affairs on their own.

Posted by
4981 posts

Basically a pretty good plan. You've listed five cities and they are all great and all unique in their own way. How you split the available time between them depends entirely on what you feel you would enjoy the most. That may involve taking time from one and adding to another. Again, your enjoyment is the top priority. Agree with you 100% regarding having quality time as opposed to just rushing through. Have a great trip and feel free to pick our collective brains for specifics.

Posted by
7175 posts

I think this is a great plan and a very efficient use of time over 3 weeks.
If you are looking to extend I would suggest perhaps flying from Rome to Vienna (3 nts), then Salzburg (2 nts), and Munich (3 nts).

Posted by
77 posts

We've been in all those places except Venice and think your plan is sound. There's always many more things to do than time to do them regardless of how much time you allocate to each place. We've been to London about 4-5 times and still find new things to see. Rome has a lot of sights that are easy walking distance from each other for an afternoon.

Also agree on Rothenburg ob der Tauber as a very interesting place to visit. A must see when you're in the area. We were there around the Christmas season and it was spectacular.