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Travelcard + Oyster...can a local double check my plan?

Hi Everyone-
My husband and I are planning a week in London in late December/early January. We have been examining our options regarding public transit, and think we've settled on each of us loading an Oyster Card with a 7-day, Zones 1 & 2 Travelcard plus about £15 PAYG. We are flying into Heathrow early on a Saturday (which I know is Zone 6), then taking the Tube to our hotel, which is in Zone 1. The rest of our week will be in Zones 1 & 2, except for a day trip to Windsor (which we know isn't in the Travelcard radius, so we will likely be taking a bus to Paddington station, then catching a train to Windsor, which we would pay for separately at Paddington I assume). Then we are flying back out from Heathrow early the following Saturday (which by my math will be after the 7 days covered by the Travelcard). So here are my questions:
* Have I got that about right?
* Any words of wisdom about exactly how I articulate that to the person at the Heathrow Underground station when buying our cards? We'll have just stepped off an overnight flight, so anything I can plan ahead to convey in my jet-lagged state is appreciated!
* We did see an option for a "Visitors" Oyster Card, which can be repurchased and shipped to us in the States, but the website said that you couldn't load a Travelcard to the Visitors' Oyster, and the price difference between pure PAYG and the Travelcard seems pretty substantial given the amount of sightseeing/on-and-off transport that we're planning on doing.
* Do I understand correctly that since I'm only planning 1 trip beyond Zones 1 & 2 during the time my Travelcard is active, plus the trip back to airport after that, that the Oyster system will magically understand to just debit my £15 balance for the difference between my Travelcard prepaid radius and what I'm actually traveling?
* Do I have the bit about Windsor right?

Thank you in advance, as always, for your help. We have gained such a sense of confidence in traveling abroad by getting great advice on these boards!

Best,
Peggy

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4164 posts

Peggy , you're quite close - Firstly , skip the visitors card and buy the cards at Heathrow . Pay cash for both cards ( 7 day travelcard and paygo , it will be very easy to get the refund when you leave . The computer will automatically deduct the difference between boundary zone two and heathrow from the paygo amount . As for the trip to Windsor - whether you go from Paddington or Waterloo to Windsor depends on where you start from . We were staying quite near Waterloo Station ,so it made no sense to go to Paddington to get the train to Windsor Central . We bought tickets at Waterloo from boundary two to Windsor and Eton Riverside . It was a short walk to the castle . If you are closer to Paddington , then go from there . Keep in mind that both the paygo and the seven day travel card are loaded onto the oyster . You will be capped by the seven day card to the zone two boundary ,and anything past that will be deducted from the paygo , it is actually quite simple and works like a charm . Don't be concerned about articulating your wishes when buying the cards , the personnel at the counters will perfectly understand what you have elucidated here , after all , this is England , not America ;-)

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70 posts

Yup. This is it. So easy! I believe what I asked for was a 7 day Zone 1 and 2 and "enough extra to get me there and back." It was all on one physical card. When I flew home, I returned the card and spent the returned cash balance (including deposit) on a meal and munchies for the flight. It was super, super smooth and convenient transaction both times.

In regards to catching a train at Paddington to Windsor, check the timetables and prices. Something I did not do! The early morning fares are more expensive. The ticket agent was helpful enough to point out that if I purchased tickets for the next, next train, the fare would be less. So I did that and then didn't have to hustle for the "next" train which was leaving shortly. I bought a coffee, relaxed and people watched! So fun. Still arrived in Windsor before the crush of day-tripping tourist buses.

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4164 posts

One additional comment ; The remarks about the two for one pricing are well worth considering , and the letter of the law , as it were , is that you need the paper travelcard . That is certainly the safest way to do it . However , from a purely anecdotal perspective , we had the cards loaded on the Oyster , picked up the brochure and vouchers , and used them anyway , no one batted an eye . Again , this was only our particular experience , used them at Cutty Sark , Hampton Court .

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5466 posts

The only valid Oyster card for the 2 for 1 offer is an annual one with a gold record card.

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1075 posts

"we had the cards loaded on the Oyster , picked up the brochure and vouchers , and used them anyway , no one batted an eye . Again , this was only our particular experience , used them at Cutty Sark , Hampton Court ."

I think that you were just lucky, I've seen other reports that state people had their paper travelcards inspected when using the 2 for 1 vouchers at attractions.

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4164 posts

Absolutely , you are quite right . That is why I carefully noted that I felt this was a purely anecdotal experience and certainly did not suggest this route as a reliable option .

Posted by
33991 posts

Advice for you here may not apply to others reading who will be traveling next year.

There are dramatic changes coming to the prices of Travelcards - up, way up; and the daily capping prices on Oyster cards, down quite a lot.

People traveling after the New Year will need to recalculate their maths, especially if they are considering using Travelcards to qualify for the Days Out promotion of the railway companies.

Posted by
54 posts

Thanks everyone for the help! And thank you for the good reminder about the two-for-one deals with the paper Travelcard...I looked at all the offerings, and given our specific itinerary for this trip it doesn't sound like it's worth it for us as we've already done several of the high cost attractions, but I'm sure other travelers will benefit from the advice!
Best,
Peggy