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CHILEAN PATAGONIA and ATACAMA ....si o no???

Twice in the past five years I've booked private trips of Chilean Patagonia/Atacama.
Twice I've had to cancel; once during COVID and. once for partner's medical issue.

I'm considering a third try, but am having a few doubts that hope some of you might help me resolve.

Some background: We could go almost any time of year. We are not hikers and my partner has mobility issues in that he cannot walk more than a few blocks without resting. We like luxury properties. Food is a highlight of our trips--can be a hole in the wall or an upscale place--we love discovering foods of other countries and regions.

Every time I think about beginning the process of booking, I pull back.

The reason for the hesitation is this:
I've taken 5 African safaris, four in the past ten years, to SA, Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Zambia.

Those were among the best experiences of my life. Seeing the animals up close was life changing. The lodges were the stuff of dreams. The people we met, the food (in CT and J'Burg), the spectacular scenery.... I hope to return in the next few years.

The Patagonia/Atacama combo (with time in Santiago) is much easier to reach and involves no jet lag from the US East Coast. Much simpler than the long slog to South Africa through Europe.

The variety of landscapes in Chile sounds compelling--snow capped peaks, rolling grasslands, sandy expanses, glaciers, geysers, etc etc etc.

BUT, after having the African safari experience, the game watching in Patagonia seems to pale by comparison. And we cannot do any real hiking, so would see most highlights from a vehicle, I imagine. (I could take some short hikes)

Santiago, frankly,, does not draw me as much as some of the other major cities of the continent (I've been to Lima, BA, Rio; I do not know that continent very well). A lot of time would be spent on flying from the US to Santiago to Natales, overnight connections in Santiago, to Atacama, back to Santiago etc etc...

I'd love to hear from any of you, especially those who have taken African safaris AND been to Patagonia. I'm not asking which is better, but I am asking: after having been upfront and personal with leopards, wild dogs, lions and all the rest---does seeing a herd of alpaca, etc, does not sound to me like it justifies the time and price to the this trip. (I'm half joking; I know there is much more to see than alpaca and penguins.).

I know the scenery is gorgeous but at this stage of my life, when I'm not sure how many more exotic trips I will be table to take, I'm asking if this is really a WOW trip. Is Patagonia at the top of anyone's list as the "best trip of my life??" Atacama??

That you very much for any and all comments!!

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I have not been to Santiago or Atacama, but I have been to Patagonia — Puerto Natales and Torres del Paine in Chile plus El Calafate and El Chalten in Argentina. I’ve also been to Ushuaia. Based on what I saw, I can tell you there is not a lot of diversity of animal life in Patagonia, certainly nothing that can compare to the places you’ve been in Africa. Patagonia has gorgeous scenery, but it also has vast areas of flat country with little or no people, houses, buildings etc. and not many animals either. On the tour I took we had to drive hours between the scenic mountain areas. We had some good food, but nothing to write home about. I’m not sure it is what you are looking for. You definitely don’t want to go there for game viewing.

Perhaps you could find a resort or two in beautiful locations that are known for excellent food. We didn’t stay anywhere like that, so I can’t offer any ideas.

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Hi,

We have done 3 African safaris and have also been to Patagonia (Torres del Paine in Chile and Mt. Fitzroy in Argentina and the Perito Moreno Glacier) this past April on a photo workshop. April is austral autumn in that part of the world so the red and orange foliage contrasting with the turquoise lakes and rivers is the prettiest imho and least touristed time to go which is a plus in my book. The weather can be a bit chilly and definitely windy. We did not experience any rain except for a little drizzle one morning but your mileage may vary. Layers and water proof outerwear are a must. Torres del Paine and Mt. Fitzroy are quite a distance from each other and we spent hours on the road to get from one to the other as Patagonia is a very large area and very spread out. Both places can easily be seen from the road so no hiking is required just get out of the car and walk 100 feet. You are not going to see a lot of variety of wildlife in Patagonia but we saw lots of guanaco (like alpacas), a puma and her two cubs, Andean condors, foxes, black chested buzzard eagles and caracaras and kingfishers. Puma sightings are not a given as they are very elusive and difficult to spot. A wildlife guide might be a good idea for spotting the wildlife. But the scenery is the main draw. It is probably the most spectacular places I have ever been and I would go back in a heartbeat. To see the scenery at its best you will need to be out there at dawn when the clouds and the peaks are spectacularly lit. The sunsets are also wonderful. We stayed in very nice places and the food was really good. We started and ended our trip in Buenos Aires and then flew to Argentina. I hope this helps.

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I just returned from Patagonia and have been on several African safaris.

As stated in the posts above, the wildlife viewing opportunities won’t be like Africa. I saw guanacos, Rhea (ostrich), caracaras, condors, woodpeckers but no puma sightings.

The scenery, particularly at Torres Del Paine, Perito Moreno and El Chelten is second to none. You can do luxury or something more basic. You can get some fabulous views without hiking. You just won’t get to all the viewpoints. You would need to have a driver I would think to get around.

Santiago isn’t my favourite city, but then, neither is Buenos Aires.

I love doing safaris too. For the last few years ‘ve had the opportunity to done another, but for me, there is a lot of the world I want to see. So I guess it comes down to what you want to do. Try somewhere new or be among the animals you love.

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Many thanks to all of you! I'm going back and forth on this and will probably be doing so for a couple of months.
I'm getting the picture that the draw here is the scenery., not the animals. .But then, there are National Parks and areas in the Western US the I've never visited......a lot closer and less expensive...makes me think!!

Have anyone of you been to other areas of Chile that you found to be fantastic destinations(s)??

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I would say Patagonia is your best bet for Wow.

If it is wildlife you are after, have you considered the Galapagos or Costa Rica?

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@ ekscrunchy - Having just recently returned from our first taste of Chile, we are hungry to try more. Yes, Patagonia for sure, but more than that: there's the Carretara Austral (Southern Highway) which appears to be one of the world's greatest and most epic road trips. From central Chile down into Patagonia. The consensus I'm seeing suggests you need an absolute minimum of 10 days for the most basic blitz through it (without a lot of stopping) to 3 or 4 weeks to do it right. I am flirting with the idea of doing in in two or three sections across multiple trips, renting a camper van. There's clearly a lot to see there, and we are already looking forward to going back.

My expectations for wildlife viewing would be modest. I would not expect it to be like an African safari, and would not regard it as a competition. I'm confident the scenery would more than make up for the relatively thin wildlife viewing options - and that's OK with me.

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ekscrunchy,
We did a safari tour in Kenya just over ten years ago, and a self-planned trip to Chile in 2015. They are not comparable. We loved them both. Of course, Kenya was all about the animals, and seeing a herd of elephants gathered around the young ones "like a village" is seared in my heart. I haven't been to a zoo since that trip. It was remarkable!

Chile was wonderful also, but it was not about the wildlife (except for the penguins). We were there almost two weeks, in Santiago, Rapa Nui (Easter Island), and the Straits oif Magellan. We didn't go to Torres del Paine, but did take a 4 day cruise from Punta Arenas. It was a small ship (about 150 passengers) and geared to scientific exploration for the islands of Tierra del Fuego. There was no shipboard entertainment except for some lectures (fascinating and NOT boring!) preparing us for our days' excursions to the various islands, and tours of the bridge and engine areas, and an open bar in the lounge. The meals were typical of cruise ships, minus the midnight buffet. Breakfast and lunch were excellent buffets and dinner was sit-down with a few options for the meals.
That being said, each day we went by means of Zodiac boats to islands to see the terrain and flora and fauna, icebergs, and the highlight, penguins! Isla de Los Penguinos is a place where Magellanic penguins give birth. There were tons of them around. We had to stay on trails to not disturb them. It was a real thrill!

Chile has some magnificent national parks, not just Torres del Paine, and I would definitely recommend it. Easter Island was another thrill for us. If we had had more time we would have gone to the Atacama Desert to (hopefully) see some of the telescopes and experience one of the driest places in the world and one with wonderful views of the heavens. Santiago has a great museum of Pre-Columbian art and there are lots of options for winery tours from that city or tours into the Andes. It's a nice city to spend a few days, eating some great seafood and beef dishes and drinking Pisco Sours (thank you Peru!).

In sum, go to Chile, hike in Torres del Paine if you want, but it won't be like Africa. Visit Rapa Nui if you can. Chile will be wonderful in its own way. If we had more years left (we are turning 82 and 83 next month) we would return. But there are too many places we haven't been yet to take time for that second visit.
Good luck with whatever you decide!

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You've all been so incredibly helpful and I want to thank you!!!!

I'll ponder this more, and also take a look at where else we could go within Chile if we go to Patagonia.
I bought a guidebook (Fodor's, I think) when we had those trips planned, so will read it through again and return with more questions. I was thinking of traveling this coming fall, 2026.....

Easter Island Is just too far for me to think about and my partner can't really do much walking.

I've made two trips to Ecuador and loved it, but that was years ago, and I never got to Galapagos. somehow the islands don't make my heart beat faster (might be a. good thing these days!!) but the great thing is that he could just skip any energetic excursions. But I would not combine Ecuador with Chile....I like to zero in on fairly small areas (I know Chile is not small, so won't combine with anywhere else..)

One more question and then promise I will stop for a while:

I was drawn to the Patagonia of Chile because of a few ($$$) hotels I read about near TDP and in the park. I totally ignored the Argentinian region. IF any of you have either been to both, or been to Argentina, what did you think? I imagine there are more glaciers accessible on that side but I could be far wrong, as I know very little except what I loaned from the Paul Theroux railway book! (We did spend a week in Buenos Aires about 20 years ago and had fun and ate very well but that city did not capture me the way I had hoped. Did love the milongas, though but don't think I could stay up so late nowadays!!). Is it a mistake to not think about Argentine Patagonia?

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I'm nearing my departure to Patagonia (with Easter Island pre-tour) with Odysseys Unlimited. The two hotels are 5 star resorts and appear to offer all kinds of activities and finest dining
https://www.odysseys-unlimited.com/tours/central-south-america/patagonia-explorer/
As I researched, other upscale companies offer variations of this itinerary but many also go all the way south and some included 2-3 ship days- I get horribly sea sick as well as altitude sickness (hence no Altacana Desert).
I don't know if tours are for you? But regardless I find the itineraries helpful for planning. I think travel is far too subjective to offer advice with the decision.
A safari is next on my list! Good luck with your research!

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Thank you! I'd not take a tour but that is helpful.

Let me know when you are planning for Africa; my knowledge is about the southern regions. I'd be happy to help!

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On the Argentina side, spending some time in El Calafate is worthwhile. The Perito Moreno glacier is certainly viewable even with mobility issues, and the Lago Argentino cruises are incredible.
Travelling & crossing the border from Torres del Paine takes a few hours.

The other hub in that area, El Chaltén, is not worth it with mobility issues.