Travel reopening plans for tourist destinations (NYT)

Yep. In my experience, all NYT articles are pay walled.

An interesting read, but with a couple of exceptions, foreign non-essential travel is still banned or will require a 14 day quarantine. I'm totally unsurprised by this, and agree with the caution. Our American friends, in particular, have to realize they are the new China - nobody wants to risk your bringing the virus with you after they've battled so hard to reduce it in their own countries. Sorry if that makes you feel a bit like like Typhoid Mary, but you (as a nation) kind of are.

I think coronavirus stuff is free on NYT for now. I got in.

I think the interesting point in the article, and one I've seen mentioned elsewhere, is the "bubble" concept that is being introduced. That is, when countries are opening up, they are opening travel by mutual agreement to trusted neighboring countries only. So Australia-New Zealand are opening to each other, UK-Ireland, Lithuania-Latvia-Estonia, etc. So maybe we're more likely to see US-Canada open before US-Europe. Since US is the hotspot for infection, maybe we'll be the last country allowed to travel to Europe.

I don't blame any country that wants to keep Americans out. I'd also like to keep out travelers from certain states. We have enough ignorant people in our own state who are out spreading the virus-they don't need any reinforcements.

Cala, we used to have a joke here that when folks moved from Oklahoma to [a state that shall be nameless lest I raise the ire of folks here] it raised the average IQ of both states. Seems like there should be a Covid corollary to that.

Jane, based on what we've seen and heard, I'm thinking that one of the side effects of COVID is a permanent drop in the national IQ of 20+ points or so. 🙂