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Our visit to Southern Germany and Austria,(Munich, Fussen, Regensberg, Salzburg and Dachau)

This was our first trip to Europe and we loved it! We have already decided to make another trip: however, to an English-speaking country, particularly England! We struggled with the lack of answers to questions we posed as we needed guidance on trains, buses, and cabs. I felt our lack of German and the German's lack of interest in speaking English made for uncomfortable situations when we needed help!

We were also surprised by the number of bees we encountered everywhere we dined and in every town we dined! it appeared this nuisance put nobody off.
We also were intrigued that windows were open with no screens in place, we were not sure why.
The countryside was beautiful, the food was good and fairly priced, historically we were in awe of the buildings and museums and we met some wonderful people along the way!

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Great deal of European countries don’t put screens on their windows. In travels to France, Belgium, England, Austria, Ireland, Netherlands, Germany rarely encountered window screens.

Had a very different experience in Germany. It was decades ago but when in Munch in 1972 a woman on the tram heard us discussing which way we thought the Hofbrau house would be. An older woman had heard us. When we came to stop she touched my arm, smiled and gestured. A universal gesture of “ follow me.” My boyfriend and I did.
10 minutes later we were at the entrance to the Hofbrau House. She smiled again, we tried to get her to join us but she shook her head and walked away.

That was 52 years ago and I still remember the kindness. That and fact I bought a Hofbrau mug that I lugged around for the remainder of the trip. Still have it. Filled with pennies.

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I first went to Hofbrauhaus as a college student in 1970. That was back when the locals spent nights there with tourists. We all locked elbows and rocked back and forth to the oompah music. And we only bought one beer (en mass) the whole night. It was one of the great nights of my life.

That was in kinder, gentler times. I still want to get over to Andechs to toast a few with "the brothers."

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I felt our lack of German and the German's lack of interest in
speaking English made for uncomfortable situations when we needed
help!

I've never felt like Germans have purposefully held back on using English (if they knew it). Indeed, I've always had someone jump in and help out if I needed it. BUT... it helps that I speak a bit of German and can get things at least started in German.

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I think first-time visitors to Europe like yourselves face all kinds of challenges. There's a whole lot of stuff that's completely new and very challenging, stuff you need to figure out right away, stuff that your RS book doesn't begin to cover. You mention public transportation, a really stressful challenge in any new country. I predict right now that in London and in other cities, where English is rumored to be widely spoken, you will once again find it quite stressful to get around, and you will also find it difficult to get answers to your questions. I cannot tell you how confusing it was for me to obtain a train ticket and to actually carry out my round-trip journey between MAN airport and the Slaithwaite station. And I am in no way a stranger to train travel around England. My fellow travelers could not answer simple questions. The railway counter personnel misguided me through Manchester Piccadilly station such that I nearly missed my train. Other rail officials could not tell me whether the announcement I read promising substitute bus service was accurate, or whether there would be a real train to ride. No one I asked questions of had accurate answers for me. The station had lockers - and lacked lockers - depending on who I asked. I could not even pronounce Slaithwaite accurately without being corrected, and could still not pronounce it after the conductor pronounced it for me - then the friendly passenger across from me informed me that the conductor had mispronounced the town's name... and he then utterred for me the "REAL" pronunciation, which I was also unable to duplicate. Gave me quite a laugh, but not all that helpful.

In other words, communication in my native language was majorly unproductive, and sometimes you just strike out with the individuals you approach, even official ones.

In GERMANY, a certain number of people you ran into probably did not speak English, probably because they aren't Germany-educated. There are many new immigrants to Germany, people who might be European-looking and sometimes know English, and sometimes they might know the answers to your questions but are reluctant to respond for obvious reasons. Immigrants with public-service positions as shop clerks and bus drivers and taxi drivers struggle to learn the German they need but do not always speak English. Elsewhere in those touristy destinations you spent time in, you may have been asking questions of fellow tourists, people from France or Italy or other places who might look like Germans (who usually DO speak English) but do not speak English or do not speak it comfortably or do not have enough knowledge to answer your questions. I am a white, sorta European-looking old man, and when I'm in Germany at a train station or walking on the street, I sometimes get asked for directions; if the question isn't in English or in German, I just shrug, smile and move on. If it's in English or German, I usually have to tell them that I have no clue, which I do not. I am not being uncommunicative or unhelpful - I am just plain ignorant and incapable.

IME "...the German's lack of interest in speaking English" is a myth. Real Germans educated in Germany tend to be very communicative and eager to practice their English. That said, they often are just as clueless about the details of their own transportation system, which are very complex to begin with, and cannot be fully depended on for accurate answers to my (or your) specific travel problems.