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Make Rome Even Greater

Dear Rick Steves,

While I have enjoyed traveling the world for more than 50 years, only recently have I become familiar with your travel guides. I am very impressed.

Your popular books and TV show must give you a certain amount of clout, both with travelers and with the operators of various tourist venues. So, allow me to offer some free advice that you might pass along to the relevant authorities in Rome.

BORGHESE BLUES
While the Borghese Gallery has an excellent collection and is housed in a spectacular palazzo, there is so much wrong with it from a visitor’s perspective that I would hesitate to recommend it, especially in view of how many other wonderful museums, some of them delightfully uncrowded, Rome offers. Granted, the Borghese is so popular that those who run it may not be interested in any suggestions for improvement. But I’ll offer some anyway.

First, maybe it’s because the museum is so popular that a number of the staff we encountered felt no need to be polite or helpful to us. The process of getting into the museum and obtaining the audio guide was unnecessarily difficult.

Using the audio guides was frustrating for various reasons. The numbers of the rooms and of individual paintings and sculpture were difficult to find or, in some cases, just plain wrong. That meant that people (not just us) spent a long time looking for the relevant audio message. In addition, the messages tended to go on too long, especially in view of our 2-hour time limit.

The afternoon sunlight streaming through the museum windows made it very difficult to see some of the works. Surely museum science has advanced to the point that lighting problems can be addressed through some combination of artificial lighting and proper window shades.

Further detracting from our experience was that, despite limits on ticket sales, the museum was extremely crowded. Worse yet, we were constantly trying to glimpse a painting or sculpture over, around, or through a sea of outstretched arms of camera-wielding visitors. Since the urge to take a selfie with “The Rape of Proserpina” appears to be irresistible, I suggest that the Borghese ban the taking of photos. Or, possibly, guards could be told to curb the worse excesses. However, since I saw guards look the other way as people were feeling the marble of a Bernini masterpiece, they might not be up to the task.

ON A POSITIVE NOTE
No city on earth can match Rome’s historical and cultural richness. Yet Rome lags behind cities such as Paris and London in making the banks of its river a destination for tourists and residents alike. Granted, the Tiber does not run right through the heart of Rome, as the Seine does in Paris and the Thames in London. And the Tiber may never have as many splendid buildings alongside it as the Seine and the Thames.

Still, there are stretches of the Tiber, say from the Ponte Vittorio Emanuelle to the Ponte Sant’Angelo and on to the Ponte Umberto, where those three beautiful bridges and the dramatic Castel Sant’Angelo towering above would provide a spectacular backdrop for development along either or both sides of the river. I’m thinking of cafes, nightclubs, and casual restaurants set up on the riverbanks or on barges anchored alongside them. And, as on the left bank of the Seine, there could also be small parks and other free public spaces.

This section of the Tiber is not far from Piazza Navona and is adjacent to a neighborhood east of the Tiber that is becoming increasingly popular.

With Rome’s mild climate, well-designed development along the river would be popular most of the year and would generate new business and tax revenues for the city. I’m sure this has been suggested many times, but maybe this is an idea whose time has come.

What do you think, Rick and other readers?

David Kirkwood
New York, NY

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Rick doesn't read this Forum but some of his staffers visit from time to time.

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We loved the Borghese. We loved it much, much more than the mobbed and noisy Vatican Museums. We did not find the procedure to access the museum to be difficult nor felt the need for the staff to be more "helpful". We read up in advance and bought a guidebook in the shop before our tour. I've referenced that book many times since our visit, and will take it along when we do the museum again.

As far as what the city should do for "well-designed development along the river", it's not my country, not my taxes and not my government to offer an opinion about. Italy/Rome has many pressing needs beyond making tourists happy and I must trust that they're doing the best they can for the health and well-being of their more permanent population. The city of Rome extends far beyond the historic center which the vast majority of visitors don't venture outside of.

In short, it's not about me or what I think. Heaven help the tourist from abroad who tries to travel the U.S. with no knowledge of English and without a car? Good luck with THAT. I'm just grateful for the many efforts which have helped me to learn and to explore, and which have caused me to fall completely in love with Rome and other parts of Italy I've been fortunate, so far, to see.

Rome is not London, and London is not Paris. Neither of them are Rome. You can't do an apples-to-apples comparison. (Yes, I've been to all three.)

I’m sure this has been suggested many times, but maybe this is an idea
whose time has come.

No, I've never seen what you have suggested on Rick Steves or any other tourist forum. Maybe they do not want to displace citizens who actually live and/or work along the river and replace them with nightclubs, restaurants and parks or whatever else is "popular" with tourists? Good for them. Rome already has an over-visitation problem, and it's not like there aren't plenty of places already for those visitors to overrun the populace. The city is plenty "great" enough without more of that.

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Kathy, you have expressed my views perfectly. Thank you.

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Borghese Museum. Procedure to enter was clear and we complied. The check in individual did not have a sense of humor. It is all ways great to have a smile. It was not forth coming. Nor were the check your item people. RS suggestions to start with 2nd floor was helpful. The staff were blocking the staircase. Had to ask permission to go to the second floor. Crowded, yes! My suggestion would be to hang completely for 1/2 hour and then go for it. RS guide did not give directions for bus return. Please place this in guide. Borghese markets for tourist dollars. It is not unreasonable to listen to those who have a suggestion. No individual, site, business, city, country or government is required to listen to suggestions. The items in the museum are wonderful. The antiquities of the past are in so many places and they can be seen in peace. I came across at blogger who was all about seeing sites in Roman without the crowds. I realize I had seen similar sites in the not so busy sites. Again, it is not unreasonable to give an opinion to an entity, such as a business, in a country, that acquires your tourist dollars. Of course, they may not give a hoot. And, your opinion may direct tourist as to whether they would like to see this site. Again, antiquities may be seen without crowds. It takes research and some travelers may not have the energy to pursue independent travel. By the way the lightening of the items in B. Museum were a hinderance!

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Our experience with the Borgesse Gallery is the exact opposite a couple years ago. It was our last full day in Rome when we went to visit the gallery only to discovered that our tickets were for the next day. Classic error of not playing attention to the starting day on the calendar when purchasing the tickets. The entry guard's English was limited but explained that we were flying home tomorrow. She smiled, looked around like looking for someone, then walked over to the exit guards, said something to them, motioned us over, took our tickets and motioned us the exit stairs. And we were in.

Since we have only spent about three weeks in Rome, I think the idea of restaurants along the Tiber is marginal at best. Big reason -- no water. Most of the year the river is pretty low and slow. Not all that attractive when compared to London or Paris or a dozen other rivers in Europe. I think Rome is just fine and probably doesn't need Rick's advice.

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For my part, I visit Rome ... and many other places ... to see the older/ancient/historic stuff, NOT modern "development" of tourist-directed areas. (I can drive to Disneyland for that.) In fact, many localities have proscriptions against development of certain areas.

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"Worse yet, we were constantly trying to glimpse a painting or sculpture over, around, or through a sea of outstretched arms of camera-wielding visitors."

This is something I will definitely agree with you. Art museums are so much more enjoyable when people are appreciating the art, not the view through their camera or worse, the silly selfie pose in front of a beautiful piece of art. We toured several museums in Spain this year, and it was a striking contrast how much nicer it is without cameras vs. photos allowed.

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I love to visit Rome but last year as we walked along the Tiber we commented on how seedy and univiting the river banks were, so different from Paris. I hope some measures are taken to make this area attractive which it deserves.

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While we're at it, it would also be preferable for visitors to keep their voices down, and to avoid using harsh, nasal languages like those of germanic or semitic origin, but to show some discretion and limit themselves to romance and/or indo-aryan vocabulary terms.
Proper attire would also enhance the experience for everyone.
The labels on the artwork should be in Latin, of course, as befits the pieces' exalted cultural position.
[ /s ]

Now let me poke fun from the other direction:

Not only are the audioguide descriptions too long (BORING, amirite?) the devices themselves are so outdated that they don't even tell us which paintings are trending that day, nor do they tell us how many 'likes' they've gotten -- in a 2-hour visit, I can't be bothered to prep ahead of time or take a breath and do some close reading -- I need to know which pieces have the most 'likes' and it would also be helpful if they would list my pop stars' favorites, so I can know which ones are the best.
Same sitch with the cafes on the riverbank: make sure the drinks and the starters are named after celebrities, or even better just have photos or augmented reality images so I don't have to search for the English part of the menu. TIA, Romans! You're the bomb.

/s is a sarcasm marker.

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I am sure the OP means well. Some of the replies explain some reasons that development along the Tevere has not occurred. There are plenty of bars, cafes, and restaurants in the area above the walls. The walls themselves are so high that it is not really possible to have a river boat-sightseeing excursion.

So, based on factors, I don't see this idea coming to fruition anytime soon.

And another thing: Make Rome even greater than what? Who decides what "greater" means?

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I am sure the OP means well.

I'm sure that's true, Zoe. :O)
But some very good reasons have been given for the cons of tourist development along the Tevere? Adding to those is that there are major traffic arteries along both sides which, given the narrowness of many Roman streets, I'd guess are there out of necessity. There is very minimal space between those roads and the walls of the river; certainly no room for construction of restaurants or nightclubs.

But mention was made of entertainment barges on the river? Here you go!

http://www.bajaroma.it

https://www.facebook.com/pg/lianofficial/about/?ref=page_internal

And there is a restaurant on top of Castel Sant’Angelo.

Reviews of a club/restaurant overlooking the river, north of the historic center, contained a request that they "remove the perfume used to mask the bad smell of the Tevere". It doesn't surprise me that the sluggish Tiber could smell pretty nasty during the dry, hot months, and I wouldn't rule out some mosquitoes, either?

The good news is that there are already so many other lovely places in Rome in which to linger! Rooftop bars/cafes with wonderful views are plentiful, and we've kicked back with an adult beverage in Villa Borghese and Parco Colle Oppio, just a short walk from the Colosseum. Tiny alley bars off the tourist routes? Love those too!

I'm sorry you were disappointed with the Borghese but sincerely hope the you enjoyed your trip and found many things in Rome that you DID enjoy!

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I want to say thanks to those who responded to the OP's comment kindly. You are making our world a better place. Snark generally is helpful to no one.