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Ireland Trip Report With a Family

Hi All,
Just got back from Ireland. For the most part, it was every bit as stunning and charming as it is made out to be. There were two things that I was a little disappointed to find, that were not called out in RS' books:

  1. When you rent a car, you are required by law to purchase insurance (unless you are covered in some other way, like through your credit card, etc.). This mandatory insurance is more than the base rate of renting the car, effectively (at least) doubling the cost of the rental. I wish I had known that before the clerk at the Hertz office broke the news to me. It was pretty much too late at that point.
  2. While many pubs in many towns have great traditional/folk music, they do not generally allow children unless there is food being served. And in most cases, they stop serving food exactly when the music starts. There are some exceptions, especially in more tourist-friendly towns. But you may have to skip out on some of Rick's favorite spots if you are traveling with kids.

Aside from the cost, I didn't have much trouble driving in Ireland. It was my first time driving on the left side of the road, but I adapted quickly. Some of the narrow country roads (as well as roads in little medieval towns) can be a little tricky, but motorists are very friendly and helpful to one another, so it's all pretty manageable.

We stuck to the southern half of the island for this trip (we'll have to visit again some time to take in the North). Some quick impressions:

  • We didn't meet a single Irish person who wasn't super-friendly, and more than happy to give you their advice on how best to enjoy the local culture. They are, generally speaking, wonderful, good-natured people.
    • Dublin is nice, but after a day or two, it feels like any big city. I wouldn't plan to spend too much time there.
    • Kilkenny and the surrounding area were lovely. We only spent one night there, as we had planned on it just being a way to break up the trip between Dublin and Dingle. But we wish we had spent another night or two in the area.
    • Kinsale was not super-exciting to us. The best thing to do in the area was not in the RS book: Old Head. It's about a 15 minute drive from town (not sure if any buses go there). Park at the parking lot for the Signal Tower/Lusitania memorial, and walk down toward the entrance to the private golf course. You will be greeted with stunning cliff/seaside vistas that are well worth the visit.
  • Dingle is a cute and fun little town, but the word is definitely out. It is swarming with tourists (not just Americans). It's definitely worth the visit, in my opinion, but just be prepared for a high tourist-to-local ratio. A highlight for us was the archaeological tour of the peninsula, as mentioned in the RS book. The guide, Michael O'Coileain, was incredibly knowledgeable about the history and culture of the area.
  • Driving the Connemara loop was cooler than I expected. Lots of neat stuff to see, most of which is in the RS book.
  • Galway was not particularly good for families. It basically feels like one giant college party, all over the city. If you are young and/or single, you will probably have a blast there, but for kids it's just kind of noisy and crowded.

Despite some of the shortcomings noted above, we had a great time and are already looking forward to going back again some time in the future. There are some places we would like to see more of, and plenty of places we didn't have time to squeeze in to this two-week itinerary. The people and the scenery make Ireland an unforgettable experience.

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Hmmm, took my two kids to Dingle last summer and they went to all the pubs with me till past 11pm so not sure why yours were not allowed??
Sounds like a great trip! I have been twice and will definitely go back as I still need to see the north.

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diveloonie, I'm glad you found plenty of places that would let your kids stay and enjoy the music. As I said, there are some exceptions, where either: A) they start the music earlier; B) they serve food a little later; or C) the staff are more interested in bringing in warm bodies than they are adhering to the rules. But you might be (politely) asked to leave one or two before you find the ones where you are able to stay. And it's pot luck whether the ones you end up in will have better music or not - sometimes yes, sometimes no.

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Thanks for the report! I agree that Rick's Ireland books have next to zero focus on traveling with kids. But to review the short text related to your first two points, see the "Practicalities" chapters: Ireland 2019 pp. 551-3 & 567-9 or Best of Ireland pp. 338 & 351-3.

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Hi Laura,

Yes, I went back later and found the info in the RS book about car rental and insurance. I would say that this could be emphasized and expanded more to make sure it is clear. I had read through this section prior to traveling and it was not clear to me until I was standing at the rental desk. To make sure it doesn't come as a shock to other travelers, it would be helpful if it were called out a little more explicitly.

The short blurb in the book about kids in pubs is pretty under-the-radar as well, in my opinion, and could easily be missed. That's why I wanted to bring it to others' attention. We were able to find exceptions in pretty much every town, but we had to check a few places first, and were asked to take our daughter outside a few times (always very politely, of course). 9:30 PM seems to be a commonly followed rule of thumb for what time music starts and the kitchen closes. Look for places where the music starts earlier and you will probably be okay (unless that pub doesn't serve food at all).

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I guess that is why you need to read the book several times in those areas and not just skim as it does have quite an impact and shock.

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Totally fair point, Nancy. In my opinion, it would be helpful if more emphasis were put on those two points in the book, rather than passing mentions. And frankly, even after re-reading the section on car rental insurance, it didn't seem very clear to me, and didn't jibe with my actual experience renting a car in Ireland.

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Just to clarify what happened with Hertz, were you hoping to "self-insure" and/or just not damage the car? Or did you believe that you had coverage under your credit card but then not enough paperwork, like a "Letter of Coverage" to satisfy the rental agent? Thanks for sharing.

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Hi Laura,

Yes, foolhardy as it may seem, I was hoping to just go without insurance, which is what I always do when renting a car in the US. Granted, that may not have been the brightest of ideas, given the unfamiliar driving scenarios I was likely to find myself in. But that was my intention nonetheless. (As it turned out, I was thankfully able to return the car with no damage, but you never know I suppose.)

Hertz did offer a few different levels of insurance. They basically involved different rates vs. different deductibles. I ended up reluctantly going with the option in the middle.

It's worth checking ahead of time if your credit card offers its own insurance. I believe some of them do. Unfortunately, I hadn't thought to check ahead of time, and I was too tired and flustered to try to check while standing at the rental desk.

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Thanks for the additional info! Not buying rental car CDW works in the US because your home-based car insurance will usually cover you, but that doesn't extend to other continents. I hate paying the extra fees, too, but have unfortunately put a few scratches in cars that I was glad I didn't have to pay for.

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Yep, it's a different ball game, for sure. If I had been prepared for it, it probably wouldn't have been so troublesome. It just came as a big surprise. Perhaps that's my fault for not doing enough research.

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Hi therealmiked,

I wanted to ask if you went by the Cliffs of Moher while you were visiting the west coast? If so, what were your thoughts on the area?

Secondly, I wondered if you recalled any of the names of the pubs in Dublin that you were able to take your children to, where they could enjoy the music as well?

Hopefully in a year or two we'll be making our way to Scotland with a stop in Ireland on the way, and those are a couple items we're interested in.

Thanks!
Dave

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Hi Dave,

Yes, we went to the Cliffs of Moher. My wife was psyched about it, so we really went for her (and she loved it). My daughter and I have a bit of acrophobia, so we were a little skeptical going in, but we enjoyed it, too. There are a variety of vantage points. Some of them are very well-protected with a four-foot wall. In other spots, you can climb right out to the cliff edge if that's what floats your boat. It's certainly a site to behold. When we were there (mid-July), it was pretty crowded. That made it slightly challenging to find a spot in the parking lot and made lines inside the cafe a bit longer, but otherwise, wasn't much of a bother. The site is big enough that it didn't feel like we were in a big crowd.

In the nearby area, we did an abbreviated version of the Burren drive recommended in RS' book. The Poulnabrone Dolmen was very cool, with plenty of the crazy rock formations as mentioned in the "Botany of the Burren in Brief" inset on pg. 319 of the Ireland 2019 book. We were short on time getting into Galway, so we didn't see a lot of the other recommended sights on that drive.

Gogarty's Pub in the Temple Bar neighborhood of Dublin is a pretty sure bet for seeing music with your kids. They have music throughout the afternoon and evening, in several different rooms. Generally speaking, just follow the rule of thumb of checking what time the music starts and what time the kitchen closes. As long as they are still serving food, kids are usually allowed to be there. And when in doubt, ask the staff if it's okay to have kids in there. They will tell you what the rules and schedules are.

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BTW, I navigated everywhere using Google Maps on my iPhone. I downloaded an offline map of the entire country prior to the trip, and it worked pretty well. I was able to use it for navigation without ever using cellular data (I just left the phone on airplane mode the whole time). It does have a couple of quirks, but you should be able to work through them without too much difficulty.

If I had it to do again, I would have brought some sort of a dashboard-mounted holder for the phone, though. That would have made it easier to see while driving than resting in the drink holder.