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First time traveling Europe alone and could use tips!

Dear Rick Steves fans and travelers alike,

I am going to Europe for the first time, and on my own. I have done some research and I figured, bringing $5,000.00 USD would be an alright amount to have for the following cities: Madrid (4-5 days), Barcelona (3-4 days), Mont St. Michel (1-2 days), Paris (4-6 days), Baden-Baden (1-2 days), and finally in Munchen (3-4 days).

If I were to stay in hostels, explore castles and cathedrals, historic sites, would I be able to have a pleasant experience? Would it be costly? Are these locations not free (I'm assuming they are not).

I hope someone can afford me clarity. I appreciate your time and consideration and look forward to your responses!

Posted by
10344 posts

Welcome to the world of European travel.
This website has a lot of resources to help you.
Estimating total trip cost is difficult, lots of variables. The days of cheap trips to Europe are long gone, and the single largest budget item isn't helping, that will be the airfare to/from Europe; the airfare will vary somewhat by where you're starting from and time of year.

Rick Steves, in his book Best of Europe 2015, breaks up total trip cost into these components:
airfare to and from Europe
surface transportation
lodging
food
sightseeing & entertainment
shopping & miscellaneous

Most sites are not free; a few are, such as most churches and cathedrals.

Posted by
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Hi Kent!

Thank you for your swift reply! I have stayed in a hostel before. In fact, I was in Costa Rica a few years back and they were everything I expected. Shared accommodations, kitchen, etc... I actually enjoy this aspect of lodgings with hostels.

Food I expect will be about a $1000-$1500 the whole month (this is just a very meagre estimation as my budget could go higher).

I do not plan on doing much shopping, as I am only there to explore the historical sites (some known and unknown), and enjoy nature as much as I can.

Taking the train from Madrid to Barcelona, I'll be expecting about 100 euros. From Barcelona to Mont Saint Michel, this is going to cost a boat load (around $400-$500 for a one way). This is probably going to hurt my budget a lot.

Traveling costs should not be too burdensome because once I reach Paris (after having been in Madrid, Barcelona, and Mont St. Michel), I will have a friend from Germany come and pick my friend and I up. We will then go to Baden-Baden, and from there, we will head to Munchen to have a reunion of sorts. I have a lot of Au Pair friends in Europe so I am hoping that helps with some of the cost.

Maybe I am still underestimating the costs associated with going to all those places in Europe...I thought I was being rather conservative with the amount of time I have there (one month).

I hope you can offer some more tips!

Posted by
19092 posts

In the first place, don't*** bring*** $5000, have it an ATM accessible account.

Next, the way I travel, I spend 65-70 euro ($72-$78*) a day for everything - accommodations, travel, food, entries, and misc. But I stay in smaller cities, in small family run Gasthofs and Privatzimmer, travel over shorter distances, eat at local restaurants, etc. Still, if you use good sense, I think you could do it for $150 a day or about $3000 for your time in Europe, so your budget of $5000 (~4500€ or 225€/day) looks easily doable.

Most importantly, reserve you accommodation and transportation in advance (you can do all of that onlne), then you will have a pretty good idea of what it will cost.

Posted by
2186 posts

How are you planning to get from Barcelona to Mont. St. Michel? It seems like we should be able to find you a less expensive way.

Posted by
4 posts

Hi Lee & Patty,

@Lee
Thanks for the tips on the ATM! That was actually my intent (albeit worded differently). I have been trying to do research on travel expenses, but am I going about it the wrong way? Ought I look up restaurants and other relatively cheap recreational things to do?

@Patty

My plan is to take the train from Barcelona to Montpellier. From Montpellier, I would take the 13 hour train ride to Rennes. In Rennes, there's a bus that takes people to Mont Saint Michel (about a 35 minute ride). I hope that works out....I have seen other alternative methods but those range in the ~$500 range.....Should I fly or take train? I feel the train is the more feasible route.

Posted by
2365 posts

You might get more answers if you post this question on the General Europe section where more people would read it. This section is for trip reports. It is worth a try. I also suggest you get Rick's Europe Through the Back Door book as it gives great advice especially for first timers. To me, your budget looks good as it appears to not include air fare. As for the train ride you plan, definitely look into budget airlines such as Ryanair, Easyjet, etc. as they have very cheap fares to fly from Spain to Paris if booked well in advance and adhere to their very strict carry on policy. Good luck. You will have a great experience.

Posted by
3098 posts

I see a Promo fare of €40.55 from Madrid to Barcelona on Renfe.com for travel 2.5 months from now. This is the Spanish train website and you can really save by buying your tickets 2.5 to 3 months ahead online. There are probably similar savings from Barcelona to Montpelier but you need to figure out the right route., and partway you would buy from the French website.

Posted by
3551 posts

Have u considered flying from Barcelona to Paris -beauvais airport? Ryan air has that route, and if u buy early enuf the fare is low. It is a budget airline with strict luggage restrictions with the low fares so read carefully bef u buy. U will be ok alone but of course limit your night hrs out unless u meet a grp to be with at your hostels. If u use rick steves guide bks u can keep your food costs down as he always shows some cheap options.

Posted by
7027 posts

You can check Vueling airlines, they fly from Barcelona to Rennes and depending on when you fly can be in the $60-80 range. Then bus from Rennes to Mont St Michel.

Depending on when you are traveling (how much time you have to plan) you can get big discounts on transportation costs by buying ahead but for these you need to commit to a date/time as the cheapest rates are non-refundable.

Also, for hotel/hostel/b&b suggestions, post your requests in the respective forums (Spain, France, etc). If you say when you are traveling and what your budget is you will get many suggestions for places to stay within your budget.

Going to Europe on your own for the first time can be challenging but also very rewarding. Good luck with your planning and I hope we'll be able to help you some more.

Posted by
11294 posts

If you know which trains you are taking on which days, you can buy advance purchase, non-refundable train tickets for France, Spain and Germany, and save a bundle.

Here's a link to the famous train guru, The Man In Seat 61, showing where to look for these discount tickets: http://tinyurl.com/bo8x6o6

Posted by
16893 posts

I also like the idea of flying on Vueling from Barcelona to Rennes. If you also want to fly to Germany, check www.skyscanner.com. If your trip is less than one month, then your budget should certainly be adequate. The more items you start to book, the more costs will become firm. After the flight to Europe, hotel or hostel accommodations are the next big-budget item, and it makes sense to reserve ahead for most of the cities on your list. Dining and shopping can also add up, if you're in a mood to treat yourself, so keep an eye on these expenses as you go, and give priority to paying for sightseeing experiences.

Rick's Best of Europe guidebook covers Paris and Barcelona, but not your other destinations, so you'll probably want a combination of smaller, city-focused books.

Posted by
7354 posts

More and more, budget airlines like Ryanair, Vueling, and easyJet are a viable, relatively low-cost way to get around Europe, but rates can vary depending on the time of day and day of the week, and they can come with strict baggage policies, so you have to do some research to compare prices and convenience. You also have to factor in getting to/from the airport, extra time for checking in, getting thru security, etc.

As for researching restaurants, if you're really concerned about eating for the minimum cost, bring some Ziploc bags with you, and get meat, cheese, olives, bread, etc. at supermarkets, then use those ingredients for sandwiches. Eating local dishes and ingredients has always been a big part of our trips, especially for France and Spain, so keep an eye out for street markets, or restaurants with the equivalent of a "blue plate special" or prix fixe menu that will allow you to eat well for a decent price. Bring a water bottle and fill it up at every opportunity - bottled water, IMHO, is pricey! Learn the local term for tap water, and request that at restaurants and cafes.

Some museums offer free days and/or nights. The Prado in Madrid, arguably the best art museum in the world, is free in the evening. With several nights in Madrid, you could go there for an hour or two on several nights. Of course, you might find places busier then, accompanied by other bargain seekers. Are you a student, or can you qualify for other discounts? Some cities offer a discount pass or card, saving you on admission fees to sights and/or transportation around town - Rick Steves' guidebooks will tell you which passes are worthwhile and which aren't such a great value. That, of course, can depend on what sights you're interested in and how much time you'll have.

Keep an eye out for sales - look for signs saying oferta, promotion, etc.

Posted by
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I am overwhelmed by the enormous support by this forum! Thank you all for your tips. I will certainly go to the General European section of this forum to further discuss any tips that may be helpful. Again thank you all!

NOTE:
My trip is planned for August. And I have tried, repeatedly, to book/reserve train tickets well in advance. However, I am not allowed to book this far in advance (or so it seems). I really want to get my tickets bought now, but the internet seems to be completely against all attempts. Any tips as to when I should book these train tickets, and/or other important logistical points (i.e. hostels, plane rides, etc...), would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by
11294 posts

My trip is planned for August. And I have tried, repeatedly, to book/reserve train tickets well in advance. However, I am not allowed to book this far in advance (or so it seems). I really want to get my tickets bought now, but the internet seems to be completely against all attempts. Any tips as to when I should book these train tickets, and/or other important logistical points (i.e. hostels, plane rides, etc...), would be greatly appreciated!

How far in advance you can book depends on the particular train. For most, it's 90 days, but sometimes it's more or less. There's also the schedule change issue; twice a year the new schedules have to be loaded, and delays in this mean that the window is shortened. The good news is that if you can't book a train, no one else can either. So, just check every few days. Do a dummy booking (up to the point where you give your credit card info) to know how the process works for each website, so you'll be ready to pounce quickly when the discount fares are released; for some popular routes and times, they do disappear quickly (others are much slower).

Posted by
1994 posts

I suggest you plan your MSM lodging as soon as possible. There are very few hotels on the island and no modern construction so the hotels are small; they also can be relatively expensive. The more affordable rooms are likely to sell out early.

The adjacent mainland is rural, with more affordable lodging. I don't know if there's a hostel.

Also, Given your interests, I suggest you consider a day trip from Madrid to Toledo. It's 30 minutes by train and a beautiful, well preserved city.