YAY!! Airline launches ‘only adult’ section for international flight

I read the title and had a completely different expectation of what the story would be for this! I thought it was to protect children from sitting next to adults watching inappropriate content on their devices. I'm not at all worried about protecting adults from children, but I am concerned about protecting children from adults.

I hope this isn't like the smoking and non-smoking sections at restaurants where you can still hear the children in the distance, even though they aren't right there. 😆

I always wonder just how intolerant some people are of kids. I'll take a young one sitting beside, in front or behind me anytime over some adults.

Carol and Allan, I agree with you both. I have never had a problem with children near me, but don't get me started on some adults.

Me too, Allan; specifically large European men boasting loudly about what they had killed on a hunting trip to Canada and kicking our seatbacks. 🤬
Give me kids…..way more fun!

good! can't stand unruly kids (i was one per my parents) or adults. loud, uncivil behavior gets my goat every time (i come from a loud culture too).

I once had a child (about 4 years old) sitting behind me on a flight across the Atlantic, kicking my seat the entire time. The mom sitting beside him did nothing. I would have loved to be in an adults only section...

I don't care about crying kids. That's what noise cancelling headphones are for. But I can't abide the little %$€#s who kick the seat in front of them. Another advantage of BC.: There is no way the little %$€#s legs are long enough to reach.

The mom sitting beside him did nothing.

Seems like an adult problem to me, not a child problem.

Oh, i would love an adults only section. Twice now we’ve had an appx 3 yr old right behind us who cried almost non-stop for the 11 hr flight Paris/London to SF. Parents did nothing.

Twice now we’ve had an appx 3 yr old right behind us who cried almost non-stop for the 11 hr flight Paris/London to SF. Parents did nothing.

If the parents do nothing to comfort the child ( and thus end the crying) , tell them you will report them for child neglect/abuse when you land.

To quote Huey Lewis. “This is good news week.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corendon_Airlines

A tin pot, one class airline that flies to all the hot tourist spots on the planet has decide to give the infants/children of the world a reward, while at the same making money from the cheap self-important adults of the world. And have, said, adults pay for the privilege. Brilliant justice and equity at last. The young children are spared the ritual whinging and droning of adults around them. These children have big plans for Sustainable Alternative Fuels to help decarbonise the planet they are inheriting.

In particular, I fully support the charging of extra for large bottomed people. But think the airline will have to put in more seats. Having these entitled ones at the front will mean that arguments about armrest will be all in one place.

Waiting with fevered anticipation of an announcement of when this airline will fly into USA. Will it shake up the competition?

Regards Ron

I want planes to have a "quiet"section just like some trains. By sitting there, you agree to keep the noise level down. No kids. No loud talking.

And while noise canceling headphones do cut out engine noise, loud talking or kids crying gets through

travelers 16 years and older will be able to purchase the seats

See, kids old enough to drive can get a seat away from their pesky younger siblings! Harmony for a price? This is one of the cheaper seat “upgrades” out there.

I would happily sit in the children's section if I could avoid the adults that slam their setbacks down, spread out as much as possible in their seats overflowing into mine, snore, pass gas, fling their 2 ft long hair over the back of the seat into my tray table, watch movies without ear buds or have them turned up so loud I can hear it all, etc.

I agree with Allan, the level of intolerance towards kids amazes me. I have been on only one flight that I remember the kids bad behavior. But I put that on the parents. If there is an issue, speak up! Talk to the child, talk to the parent and talk to the flight attendant.

I think adults forget they were children also. I've never sat on a plane next to a problematic child. I have sat next to problematic men. So, let's become totally intolerant and have male flights and female flights and sleeper flights and party flights and library style flights (I'd really like the last one. LOL)... Karma, folks. There will always be someone that someone else doesn't want to sit next to, whether right or wrong. People need tolerance and patience.

Twice now we’ve had an appx 3 yr old right behind us who cried almost
non-stop for the 11 hr flight Paris/London to SF. Parents did nothing.

I'm certainly not going to disagree that parents need to be responsible for the behaviour of their kids, but what is the parent of a crying child supposed to do? Next time, perhaps a privileged member of the whiney adults section should demand the flight attendant offer the offending child a parachute and then open the door.

Tassie Devil, hahahahahahaha!!!! Brilliant!

If there is an issue, speak up! Talk to the child, talk to the parent and talk to the flight attendant.

mikliz97, I couldn't agree more. It's not the child's fault - it's the adult supervising the child. Turn around and ask the adult to stop the child's bad behavior.

Tassie Devil, Queen has a song that such bubble bottoms on women. within reason, of course, "make the rockin' world go 'round." A lot of truth in that song even if it's politically incorrect.

I think this is a great idea! From the perspective of a parent flying with a toddler less than a year old. Mind you this was back in the day, she is fully grown now with school age children of her own. I vividly remember how embarrassed I was when she cried and screamed the entire flight from California to Washington DC, not even an international flight. I tried everything and nothing worked. Finally as the plane began descending she gave up and fell asleep. It was a horrible experience for a new mom. Maybe it would have been better if she could have see more little ones around her but no that wasn’t the case.

Next time, perhaps a privileged member of the whiney adults section
should demand the flight attendant offer the offending child a
parachute and then open the door.

Thats an option? Excellent!!!

I would prefer the concept of a quiet zone for all ages, too. Plenty of times loud and obnoxious adults in my vicinity have been frustrating, too. (I struggle with anything in or over my ears due to tinnitus.)
Once a young mother holding a baby boarded and handed all those nearby her seat a little bag- with a note explaining their family emergency, some hard candies and foam earplugs- what a sweet and proactive gesture.
I wish I had thought to do that. I had to make several cross- country domestic trips with my two under 4- year- olds when my dad was terminally ill. On the last trip the older was inconsolable knowing they'd never see him again. That likely sounded like a "brat" with a neglectful parent, too....
Travel in a cramped space (for those not able to afford business class) for many hours is challenging for anyone- unless the behavior is threatening the physical safety of other passengers and crew I really try to pack my patience and compassion with the other stuff in my personal item...

I find it very interesting how on the public internet there are such narratives about intolerable noises made by children. I find it interesting because all of us were once children and it's just normal to expect children and babies crying. There's something a bit funky and odd about wanting to cordon off children and babies into a separate section.

I guess what I find myself thinking, too, is how a segment of our society (societies) have become so intolerable to certain types of human existences, that it's both incredible and disturbing. I hope that as adults we could both tolerate and understand the struggles of a baby/child and that we can sympathize and empathize with the parents/caregiver. In a sense, it's almost like that if we're not able to do that as adults, we adults are being infants ourselves, a role that we as adults should already grow out of rather than be cry babies and expect to be catered to.

So I guess, too, that what I hear me thinking is that the expressions of intolerability by adults is really adults becoming crybabies themselves, still infants, not growing up.

On a bit of a lighter note, when I saw the 'only adult section', I read that to also mean 'adult only' section which has a different connotation. I was thinking, so they're finally making the mile-high club official? LOL.

Well, not a fan of kids and babies or difficult adults. Always a little nervous when I get on a plane wondering who I will be seated next to. Glad that I don't actually fly too often.

I'm with kids all day and into the evenings with teaching and coaching.

But let's be honest here. It's nice to get a break from them at times. This is not about "not liking kids." C'mon, man!

Perhaps a "quiet zone" like on trains is the answer.

Looks like Westjet solved this problem years ago. Here's a link. ( bring your sense of humor)

https://youtu.be/M4SkoJy3D0M?si=vVA18muwUSXK02iB

Travel in a cramped space (for those not able to afford business class) for many hours is challenging for anyone- unless the behavior is threatening the physical safety of other passengers and crew I really try to pack my patience and compassion with the other stuff in my personal item...

karen, what a wonderful thought and beautifully said. Thank you.

To CJean
Too funny! Thanks for sharing the link about “KargoKids”. Life is crazy 😜 it’s good to laugh at ourselves.

joe, Everyone in our section was upset about the 3 yr old’s non-stop bratty crying. We spoke to the FA who understood the problem and asked to be moved, she went to find seats for us but came back very apologetic and said the plane was totally full. Noise cancelling headphones did not cancel out the loud crying directly behind us. We were on Virgin in Premium Delight.

Edit: I wouldn’t want to threaten them with reporting them and causing a scene on an 10/11 hr flight, plus i had no way of getting their names, address, etc.

Susan, to me the issue is "the parents did nothing". If they really didn't try to soothe the child, didn't bring things to entertain him, didn't have his favorite snacks for him, didn't have a device on which he could watch videos, then they're the ones to blame. On the other time, sometimes parents do everything they can and still can't get the child to stop crying. This doesn't necessarily mean that the child is a "brat". Yes I know children can be very annoying on a long flight, but those kids are the ones who will be paying our social security.

I’m a mom and i know when crying is because they’re in distress or just to be bratty. They had a 5 yr old who was quiet the whole flight and a 6 mo old who never made a sound. Their 3 yr old cried loudly the whole time. Both parents just flat out ignored all the kids from the get go. Both parents just read the whole flight. Clearly the parents fault. And why i’d love a “quiet” section or an adults only section.

There was a mom directly across the aisle next to me who also had a 3 yr old. Quiet but active most of the flight but did cry for one whole hour. The mom held him, rocked him, walked the aisle with him. I have no problem in that situation, totally understandable. The mom did all she could but it took a full hour before he finally fell asleep. I smiled at her several times out of sympathy and told her she was a really good mom.

@Bigmike

Well done. A headline grabber in the best traditions of British tabloids. Gets your immediate attention, then lets you down.

Ah, Brian May’s 1978 “Fat Bottom Girls”. That's done it, cannot get the lyrics out of my head now. May have been politically incorrect, but do not remember. Still freely played around the traps today south of the equator. Just checked with my wife and she thinks the original cover of the 45-rpm single's sleeve is rather cute.

Was not one of May’s followers, rather insanely jealous. How could he have achieved a BSc with Honours in Physics, be personally invited to Jodrell Bank Observatory, also produce such outstanding contemporary music and lyrics, and perform for the bands’ adoring public. Tis a cruel world.

Of course, May has completed a PHD in Astrophysics, been personally Knighted by a contemporary fan, Charles R.

Was mentally visualizing more along the lines of old saggy butted golfers who have a penchant for shanking. Be careful with that word!

Regards Ron

a Turkish - Dutch airline? Some combo...

Tassie Devil, that's one of the best posts I've read on these boards. Maybe you write for a living? Regardlesss, well done, sir!

Sir Brian May. A connoisseur of, um, female derrieres and the origins of the universe. A true renaissance man!

Mister E, no way that's an option. Is it?

Go Wrexham!!!

The Child Zone should be the more expensive ticket.

@ Bigmike. Grazie Mille for the kind words.

No, I do not write for a living, appreciation for the beautiful English language came later in life and continues. My natural attraction is mathematics, hence one of the reasons for my jealousy of Sir Brian. The other being that a paper bag holds water better than I can hold a note.

At high school, I thought my best way to make a small pile was via a Commerce degree and then discovered that I was attracted to the justice and equity of Westminster Juris Prudence. This drew me to Bill Shakespeare and other contemporaries and onto more recent adventurers like Byron. Luckily for me, Uni bachelor’s degrees were free. So greedily grabbed 2. Though no longer so.

The commerce and law drag one into murky realm of nefarious people. For a while I thought I could make a useful contribution to society. Interviewing and writing about victims is depressing. Especially domestic violence and child abuse. Having to use diazepam to sleep convinced me reassess.

That is why I push back against adults (?) who wish to victimise infants and children. I can handle their noise and antics. I try to encourage and give them room to learn, experiment and make mistakes. Enjoy the pleasures of growing up. This can be difficult when they have for the most part received love and nurturing and then encounter those who have not and have a rather brutal view of the world. To the best of my knowledge, those under 12 have no intention of threatening my life.

I will defend them.

Regards Ron

I love kids. Big difference between abusing children and not wanting one behind you crying for 10 hrs in a very confined space on an airplane.

That is why I push back against adults (?) who wish to victimise
infants and children. I can handle their noise and antics. I try to
encourage and give them room to learn, experiment and make mistakes.
Enjoy the pleasures of growing up.

Just reposting what Tassie Devil wrote because it's worth reading again and again. Well said.

I tend to have equal respect for tourists that want to enjoy the joys of being sourrounded by screaming little brats and those who prefer condesending adult company on their travels. I am happy that there are options and wish the airline well.

I always wonder just how intolerant some people are of kids.

I think people with children are 'conditioned' to be able to handle noise from kids. I once sat on an exit-row aisle seat; a couple with twin babies sat right next to me in the center bullhead row. Both babies cried and screamed constantly in their waking hours during the 16-hour non-stop flight on an A350 from SFO to Singapore (noise cancellation headphone was futile here). And the father took the liberty to rock the baby he's in charged of right in front of me; I ended up with motion sickness and had to close my eyes. Ever since I avoided bulkhead seat in continental flights.

So yes I like the idea of flight section with just adult passengers ... no offense to all the crying babies :)