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Transportation to Venice from Germany

Thanks to all the helpful advice from my other topic regarding transportation around Germany, etc, we are now more set on our itinerary. Thank you!!

Please advise on this questions as well?

Nov 1 (off season and yes realize that it may be raining or foggy all day {everywhere} according to experienced travelers) we want to leave Fussen, Germany and go towards Venice for a couple days and return to Fussen end of week-Nov 4.
Please advise on what's the best way for us to get there/back

Train or car?
Catch train from Fussen to a major point and train from there? Should we drive to Salzburg, and catch a train there?
Drive and park at hotel for the complete stay.

Thank you in advance for any helpful advice.

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You can play around with the Deutsche Bahn web site, but it appears that it is fastest to go back to Munich and pick up a fast train there. The fastest trip I see in the morning takes 9 hours.

ViaMichelin suggests several possible driving routes, the fastest of which (looks like it's through Bolzano and Trento) is estimated at about 6 hours without stops. I have no idea how risky that drive would be in early November, weather-
wise.

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Assuming you have a car, Its about 5 1/2 to 6 hours to Venice. So if you got going very early, you could make it to the parking garage at Piazzale Roma by noon. Park the car in the garage and proceed by vaporetto from there. That would give you 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 days in Venice. Trains would cut into the amount of time you could spend there, as well as being a bit pricey on short notice.

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If you decide to drive, be aware you will need the following for the drive to Venice:=

All drivers in Austria and Italy require by law an IDP - International Driving Permit - which will need to be used with your home license if stopped by police or in case of an incident. You need to get the IDP before you leave home.

You need to budget time prior to the Austrian border (or you can get before leaving the Füssen area as it is on the border) to buy and stick on the windscreen in the correct place an Austrian Vignette. It is instead of tolls on the Austrian highways and tunnels. It costs around €10 for 10 days and both automated cameras and police in cars and on motorcycles will be checking - if you don't have it there will be a big fine. If the actual police stop you it will need to be paid on the spot; if the cameras get you it will come in the post; if they both get you it will be both.

You need to budget for the high toll (in addition to Vignette) at the Europabrucke (Europe Bridge) south of Innsbruck just before where the highway enters Italy.

After the Europabrucke the road steeply goes downhill. This is a danger area for campers, caravans and other trailers and in two of my journeys through there I had longish delays when one flipped. I'm pretty sure that there is a reduced speed over the brow, and I think that TUTOR is in that area.

You need plenty of cash for tolls because all the way to Verona, and all the way from Verona to Venice you will paying tolls.

Be careful of your speed in Italy, even if others around you aren't. They have instant acting speed cameras which will send you a ticket in the mail, and the locals will know where they are and you won't. There is also TUTOR which measures your average speed over a long distance such as 10 km. If you've exceeded the limit you'll get a ticket in the post.

There tends to be a wall of trucks in the slow lane as you approach the exit for Mestre and Venice. Use your phone or a good GPS to show you the exit you need because you may not be able to see the signs. If you get to the toll booths before the airport you've gone too far. Yes, this is the voice of experience, and I drive my personal car from home to Venice most years.

Be particularly careful of the speed limit on the Ponte della Libertà, the bridge linking the island to the mainland. We have seen reports of tickets arriving for just a couple of km/h over.

Some higher value cars are not permitted by certain car hire - rental - firms to go into Italy. You should disclose when you get the car which countries you are likely to take the car to.

If you should be tempted to go a little out of your way and drive the Fern Pass expect delays.

You asked

Drive and park at hotel for the complete stay.

There are no roads in Venice. All cars must either remain on the mainland or park at either P Roma or Tronchetto and then you get around Venice by boat.

I'm glad that you are taking the time to see Venice, my favourite city in the world. It is completely unique and absolutely worth the experience. I know that you are tight for time, but once La Serenissima makes you fall in love with her you won't want to leave so soon.

I hope that you have a marvelous time..

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All drivers in Austria and Italy require by law an IDP - International Driving Permit - which will need to be used with your home license if stopped by police or in case of an incident. You need to get the IDP before you leave home.

Everybody talks about the necessity of these in Italy, but I was asked to show mine when renting a car in Germany. So go to AAA and get one for anyone who will be driving. Bring passport photos and the whole process takes about 15 minutes. If you're a AAA member, I think its free. Otherwise a small fee.

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Should we drive to Salzburg, and catch a train there? Drive and park
at hotel for the complete stay.

Better to drive to Innsbruck or Munich (not Salzburg) and catch the direct ECs from there to Venice and back. But will you be keeping a rental car for the whole time you are in Venice and leaving it in Germany? It's probably better to forget the car and take the train. I can see round trip Sparpreis for 197,80€ for two if purchased today. That's going through Munich and taking the direct EC between Munich and Venice. The outgoing trip is leaving Füssen at 9:05 and arriving in Venice at 18:10. The return trip leaves Venice at 13:50 and, unfortunately, gets back to Füssen at 23:26.

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Milan-Venice-Florence
Nov 2016

Eurorail?
Italiarail?
Any difference?
Pre order and receiving tickets in time a problem?

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Eurail does not run any trains. They a consortium of rail companies that market a product that is up there with Traveler's Checks and Yellow Pages Phone Books.
If you buy tickets on-line, you print them at home, sometimes immediately, sometimes after the couple of seconds it takes the email with the pdf to arrive in your inbox.
Italiarail is a travel agency for Trenitalia that charges a small fee. But since you can buy the tickets directly from Trenitalia's website for free, why?
http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en

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If it were me, I'd take train from Fuessen to Venice. Much more relaxing, and no need to think about road conditions, weather, getting gas, speed limits, etc. And the stretch between Innsbruck and Verona is scenic, if I remember correctly. (I took trains from Lindau to Venice several years ago and liked it a lot.)

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The food wagon is an experience in itself, but not for the quality of the food.
As I recall the Italian train food was better than the German train food.
If you take your food seriously I suggest you buy something on the station before boarding the train where you will have lunch :-)
A salad, some sushi, or a sandwich and a bottle of wine - enjoyed while Italy flows past your window - what could be better. Be sure to get seats facing each other, have a table between them, and is at the window.

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Sam
Thank you I did go to the the site you mentioned, www.trenitalia.com and the prices are cheaper! I have no interest in a rail pass from other sites. I'm correct in thinking that I can't buy an Intrarail pass anyway. Forgive my spelling mistakes, and I'm sure I may be getting some info wrong as well.

I have researched all the correct train station names however, and now it's just up to me to be brave enough to click the "purchase" button! I want to be SURE I have the correct names of stations for trenitalia. :)

Milan: Milano Centrale
Venice: Mestre Venezia
Florence: Firenze SMN
Pisa: Pisa Centrale

Thank you

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Oops! Mestre Venezia will leave standing among the ship yards and oil refineries of Mestre gazing across the lagoon to the red tiled roofs and campaniles of magical Venice. Use Venezia S. Lucia instead and you will be much happier.

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Thanks everyone!
Train Tickets booked! I did stay away from Mestre in Venice.
I will say that trenitalia is not an easy site to work with...but they are booked!

Your help made a huge difference!