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Train travel and reserved seats.

I am on my way Budapest to Vienna, and it's easy to spot the experienced Travelers. They are the ones that know that a holiday doesn't have to cost $14,875. They understand that seat reservations are optional and they can almost always find an empty seat and even though you may have to play musical chairs at each stop reducing the cost to $14,872 opens up a world of possibilities and demonstrates their knowledge of the rails.

For gwad sakes buy a seat. Its 2 euro (3 with OBB). In my carriage alone, 2 are standing and 3 have had to move because someone at the next stop reserved the seat they are in. Not always without argument. In Gyor we picked up a family of 4 with out seats and they asked people to move so they could be together. The little brats are running up and down the aisle screaming. I am so proud the are not Americans.

Maybe I start going first class to avoid the drama.

And on a side note. The train experts say no problem with a 5 minute transfer when traveling by train. If the transfer is at Budapest Keleti I can think of at least 5 reasons why you might want more time.

Now I am laughing. The conductor got on after the stop in Gyor. Thats 3 stops and half way through the trip. In Hungary old-farts ride free but this is an international train. Still, like on the Budapest metro, he acknowledged my presence and move on without checking my ticket. Very strange and a first. I got checked on my last trip to Vienna and even on in-country trips.

Posted by
4578 posts

Yeah, reserve your seat, avoid the headache.

I have to admit we’ve moved up to first class on most train trips now cause usually the price difference is affordable. Not the Eurostar though.

Wish we could on our plane travel.

Posted by
17468 posts

Lately, I've seen too many trains with SRO and that includes first class.

On a recent DB trip, my train was canceled at the last minute and I was moved to another train but with a seat reservation.

When I got to my seat, someone was in it. I told him it was my seat. He pointed to the seating board and it showed available. He said if my ticket showed the seat he would move. I showed him the ticket and he moved.

There had to be about 20 people standing in my car and that was first class (I'd be pretty upset if I paid for first class and had to stand the entire way.)

I always get a seat reservation if available.

Posted by
3149 posts

There had to be about 20 people standing in my car and that was first
class (I'd be pretty upset if I paid for first class and had to stand
the entire way.)

If that happens you are due compensation.

Posted by
7572 posts

The train experts say no problem with a 5 minute transfer when
traveling by train.

I don't know if I'm considered a train expert or not, but it depends a lot on the station. 5 minutes is more than enough at smaller stations, but at larger stations you will need more time.

Posted by
11140 posts

we picked up a family of 4 with out seats and they asked people to
move so they could be together.

I hate when that happens, but sometimes that 2 euro charge adds up for a family, 8 each way makes 16 for the day with possibly a low salary. We're lucky we can pay and reserve where we want.

Posted by
1219 posts

Are the SRO conditions some of you are witnessing typical of summer traffic, or is this worse than you have experienced in past summers? More people traveling by train?

Posted by
22875 posts

Jojo Naa, I am complaining this time, but my last two local trains were the same, and my last time through Vienna in September was about the same.

Despite the complaints, worse things could happen. It's all good. Very acceptable trip. Seeing my son made it worth it.

Train arrived 20 minutes late. Missed the 5 minute connection ... if I had one.

Badger, you are correct it is different if you know the station. But tourists dont and never will with certainity until they go and check it out first hand. Who would guess or be expected to know that at a station from track 1 to track 15 is a 1 km walk?

Posted by
17283 posts

5 minutes is more than enough at smaller stations, but at larger
stations you will need more time.

True enough for many stations but, as Mr E said, if unfamiliar with them - or new to train travel to being with - could cause difficulties. Also, transfer time for, say, a well-traveled couple shouldering nothing but day packs is a different deal than, say, a family of 4 with an infant and a preschooler, a carseat, a stroller, diaper bag. luggage for 4. etc. etc.

Posted by
22875 posts

Kathy, you got my point and then some. I only realized today that Keleti Track 1 last car to track 15 first car was close to a kilometer. WHY? No tunnel under the tracks.