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Train from Munich to Vienna with less transfer time in Salzburg

Hi,

We are planning to travel from Munich to Vienna by taking the train. I see some good offers currently at Germanbahn website. The only hitch is the transfer time in Salzburg. There is only a 9 minute transfer time.

Can i get some expert advice regarding this transfer time is sufficient? We would also be carrying some luggage since we are having a 12 day Europe trip.

Can you please suggest?

Posted by
8889 posts

The perennial question. The DB website has a minimum transfer time configured for each station. If the website gave you this option, it must exceed the minimum time for Salzburg station.
But, you could:
1) On the DB website, you can select a longer minimum connection time.
2) There are two trains per day where you don't need to change, they are direct. For example:

München Hbf depart 09:16, Wien Hbf arrive 13:30
München Hbf depart 13:27, Wien Hbf arrive 17:30

Posted by
5 posts

Thank you Chris for your response. The best offers were available only for the ones with the transfer, however the transfer time was really less which is why i was asking if the transfer time was enough.

Posted by
21150 posts

When I look at a random date, I see 10 minute connection time between the Meridian train Munich-Salzburg and the Westbahn train Salzburg to Vienna. You go from track 5 to track 7. So you get off the train, walk down a set of steps, walk 50 feet, then up another set of steps and board the waiting train. Should take about 4 minutes, even if you were the last on off the train.
There may be escalators and elevators at Salzburg station as well.

Posted by
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I was specifically looking at the date of 1st May 2018. I see the transfers are always 9 minutes. The system is not allowing me to adjust the transfer time and search for a booking. It is throwing an error message and asking me to either visit a Ticket Window.

Can someone suggest any other tip to have a little bit more transfer time? The platform are showing 14 and 4 which is also indicating that 9 minute might not be enough.

What would happen if we were to miss the connection because of the delay either by us or the incoming train? Would we be able to take the next train automatically ?

Posted by
17427 posts

So you are looking at the 8:17 and 9:17 departures which show a Sparangebot price of €29,90.

If you want that price, it appears you will have to live with the 9 minute transfer time. It should not be a probelm. The barn.de does not show the arrival track for Salzburg, but it does show your departure is from Track 4.

You could check the OeBB website to see if they have a different offer.

Posted by
19274 posts

Full fare ticket are fully flexible that day. Just get on the next train. For SparPreis ("saving fare") tickets, for connections entirely in Germany (all Bahn), and I assume for connections between the Bahn and ÖBB, if you miss a connection due to the fault of the railroad(s), just go to the ticket counter and they will change your ticket to the next train. If it is your fault that you missed the connection, sorry.

It looks like you are looking at SparPreis fares. When they start selling these tickets, they start with the lowest price and, as the lowest priced tickets sell out, the price goes up. Munich to Vienna is a popular connection, and it looks like the lowest priced tickets with a better connection times are sold out (it's less than a month in advance).

You might try going via Regensburg. Put in Passau as a stopover. That will force a route through Passau, but you won't necessarily change trains there.). That uses a regional train from Munich to Regensburg where you catch a RailJet or ICE to Vienna. It takes a little longer, but not much. You might find better fares there. It looks like the connection time in Regensburg is 12 minutes.

Or, look for fares from Salzburg to Vienna on Westbahn. Book Salzburg to Vienna on Westbahn and take a Meridian regional train to Salzburg using a 31€ (for 2) Bayern-Ticket.

One more hint, instead of "adjusting" the connection time after pulling up the schedules, put in Salzburg as the intermediate stopover on the original query (Use "Change other data") and specify a longer stopover time, say 00:30 (thirty minutes). You might get better fares that way. Your change time that way will probably be longer than 30 minutes, but no less.

Posted by
21150 posts

Yes, Salzburg Hbf only has tracks 1 thru 9. 9 minutes should be no problem at all. These are trains, not airplanes. Like I said, this should take 4 minutes at most.

Another alternative, book a 6 hour stopover in Salzburg. Your other thread indicates you scheduled a day trip to Salzburg. Can you get it done with 6 hours in Salzburg? You can take the 8:17 train, store luggage in a locker at the station, and get the 4:08 pm train to Vienna, and still get the 59.80 EUR Sparpreis.

Edit - You can also make it an 8 or 10 hour stopover in Salzburg and still get the 59.80 price.

Posted by
8889 posts

On the DB website ( https://www.bahn.com/en/view/index.shtml ), put in from: München, to: Wien, date: 1st May, time: 09:00.
Now click on "Further options" (grey, at the bottom).
One option is "Duration of transfer", it will say "standard", you can change this to a longer period, for example "at least 30 minutes".
Then click on "Search".

You do know 1st May is a public holiday?

Posted by
2480 posts

So you are looking at the 8:17 and 9:17 departures which show a Sparangebot price of €29,90.
If you want that price, it appears you will have to live with the 9 minute transfer time.

[...]

For SparPreis ("saving fare") tickets, for connections entirely in Germany (all Bahn), and I assume for connections between the Bahn and ÖBB, if you miss a connection due to the fault of the railroad(s), just go to the ticket counter and they will change your ticket to the next train. If it is your fault that you missed the connection, sorry.

@Lola, @Lee
The train binding of Sparpreis tickets from Germany to Austria is compulsory for the German leg only. ++) As soon as you have crossed the border (in that case: have reached Salzburg Hbf) you are free to use any train in Austria (with the exception of Westbahn trains, a private competitor of ÖBB). So you can adjust your layover in Salzburg at will (however, 9 min transfer time is plentiful for the rather small station fo Salzburg); no need to change your ticket.

++) According the SCIC regulations („Special Conditions for International Carriage“) § 5.8.2, version of february 2018 (no English text available):

Eine Fahrkarte „Sparpreis Europa“ darf nur an den Tagen, in den Zügen und in der Wagenklasse genutzt werden, die auf der Fahrkarte angegeben sind (ZUGBINDUNG ). [...] Die ZUGBINDUNG gilt grundsätzlich nur auf DB STRECKEN. Abweichungen sind ggf. in den SCIC-SB genannt.

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Thank you everyone for all your suggestions and advice. They were really helpful.

As per the suggestions, We will try to manage the 9 minute transfer and as everyone says it should be doable.

The advice regarding the freedom for the Austrian railway at Salzburg was very informative. In that case, even if we miss the connection we could take the next one.

We look forward to our trip and are very thankful to all of your help and suggestions.

Posted by
19274 posts

This has been pointed out many times on these forums, but I don't see it mentioned yet on this thread.

A train is not an aircraft, where you are required to remain in your seat until the vehicle comes to a complete stop. As the train comes into the station, and with a big station like Salzburg it should be obvious, get up, gather your luggage, and proceed to the end of the coach (or wherever the door is) ready to get off when the train comes to a stop. When you get off the train, proceed to the stairs to the connecting tunnel (lots of people will be going there, follow the herd). Once in the tunnel, locate the stairs to your next platform; there will be large signs with the platform numbers by the stairs.

Know in advance the number of the platform for your next train. It should be on the railroad website. If you don't know it yet, ask the conductor. As a last resort, there are mustard colored schedules along the platform with trains organized by departure time. Included with the information (time, train number, destination) will be the track number (Gleis, in German).