Train from Milan to Spiez

a group of 4 are traveling from Milan to Spiez May 29, 2013, I checked Trenitalia webite and tickets are sparse and listed at 259Euros. Rail Europe has the same ticket listed for 165 Euros. I have read other travel blogs stating the fair should be 59 Euros. How much shouel if be and where do you suggest I buy the tickets? Thanks
Greg

Posted by Jeff
Bend, OR, United States
1145 posts

I think the fare you are looking at is the total for 4 persons. I just checked and the single fare is €62.

Posted by Lola
Seattle, WA
5444 posts

The regular fare for four is 248 euros, or 62 euros each. If you use the "show other fares/offers" button and then hit "continue", you can choose Smart2 fares of 32 euros per person on the next page. The 22 euro Smart fares are all gone, and the Smart 2 fares will be too if youwait very long. To see the Smart 2 fares, hit the "s e l e c t" button for the train you want (probably the 11:25 one). It will highlight that train in red and below the scheule you will see the button for "other Fares". click on that and then hit "Continue". On th enext page, use the drop-down menu to choose the Smart 2 fare for each of the four passengers.

Posted by Greg
Castro Valley
6 posts

thank you for the clarification. Do you know the difference between 1st and 2nd class? Have gotten differing opinions.

Posted by Greg
Castro Valley
6 posts

anyone have any experience driving from Moneglia to Milan? Trying to figure driving time to catch a 12:35 train.

Posted by Ken
Vernon, Canada
17736 posts

Greg, Regarding first class or second class, the difference is mainly the comfort level. First class will have more room and more comfortable seating. I never bother with first class, as second class is perfectly comfortable and considerably cheaper (and I often meet more interesting people in second class). Cheers!

Posted by Sam
Green Bay
2257 posts

I don't think that will happen. However, there is one train every hour at 49 past the hour, and one train every 2 hours at 20 past the odd hour, so that's 3 trains every 2 hours.

Posted by Andre L.
Tilburg, Netherlands
2172 posts

Greg, count on 2h outside peak time for driving until the Milano's ring road and then it depends where you want to go. If you are going to Milano Centrale, add another half-hour. Add up to another 45min if driving around peak times, traffic near the Genova interchanges is horrible on peak times.

Posted by Greg
Castro Valley
6 posts

Trenitalia website shows a train from Milan to Speiz leaving at 11:35 AM on May 29th, yesterday it also showed a train leaving at 12:35 with a transfer in Brig. Today that option does nto show up and when I try to go Milan to Brig and then from Brig to Psiez it willnto allow me to buy the second leg of the trip. ANy idea why the 12:35 option disappeared, am I doing something wrong? We need the 12:35 departure time. THanks

Posted by Lola
Seattle, WA
5444 posts

If you want the 12:25 you need to enter Milano Centrale to Brig, and just buy that ticket. (It appears Smart fares are gone so it will be 36 euro). Trenitalia cannot sell you a ticket on the Swiss train that starts in Brig and goes to Spiez. You can just buy it when you get to Brig.

Posted by Tim
Minneapolis, MN, USA
8640 posts

The Trenitalia site normally doesn't show legs that are entirely outside of Italy so I'm surprised that the route with a connection in Brig ever appeared on the site. If you enter Milano as your departure point and Brig as your arrival point, the 12:25 train will appear. Go ahead and book it now. Buy your Brig-Spiez ticket when you get to Brig.

Posted by Greg
Castro Valley
6 posts

Thanks. Any concern that the train from Brig to Spiez will be full since Im not buying a ticket in advance?

Posted by Tom
Easley, SC, USA
268 posts

Greg, This may be too late, or irrelevant, but here's my 2cents. I did a solo scenic train trip around Switzerland some years back. It was wonderful. But one of the biggest pleasures for me was not just the famous scenic trains, all of which I took! I took the train between Spiez and Brig a couple times, and it is one of the most beautiful, scenic train rides I found in all of Switzerland! The issue for you, now, is, there is a new fast line between Spiez and Brig that does much of the line in a long tunnel. Not much scenery on that line at all. So if you do decide to opt for the scenic route, you need to figure out which trains still run on that route. I think checking a map and a detailed timetable should do it for you. In any event, have a great trip!

Posted by Lola
Seattle, WA
5444 posts

Actually, the other route goes through a tunnel as well; it is just not as long. If you want to go that way, choose a train that stops in Kandersteg. As far as being able to get on a particular train, I will just say that in a total of 8 weeks riding trains around Switzerland without reservations, the only time we found a train crowded was on the IC train between Bern and Zurich, heading to Zurich on the day of the Street Parade (usually first Saturday in August) when about a million people converge on Zurich and party. We've been lucky enough to hit that event twice!!! And the second time we had to stand for part of the ride as there were no seats. Apart from that, we have never had trouble with full or crowded trains.

Posted by Greg
Castro Valley
6 posts

Thanks everyone for so much great feedback and information. Really looking forward to our trip

Posted by Maxine
Louisville, CO, USA
8 posts

When I try to book this route - Milan to Spiez - I get a generic error.
Anyone know why this would happen?

Posted by jefferybiz
1 posts

Hello all,

May I know what is the best & fastest way to go to Interlaken, Swiss from Milan Italy ??
We are thinking to travel to Italy before going to this heaven Interlaken
Well appreciate for those who can assist here

Thank you

Posted by Sam
Green Bay
2257 posts

It may be best to start a new thread instead of tagging on to an old one, but short answer is just go to Spiez and change to a train for the short ride to Interlaken. In Switzerland, the connections are timed very well so you won't have to wait long. They are frequent as well.