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Rome to London on Eurail Pass

Weeks ago, I purchased Eurail passes for my family of four. We will be travelling from London through France and Italy and then back to the UK when we fly back to North America. I am looking to book rail travel between Rome and London on July 30, 2023 and am having a hard time finding a way to have a portion of it on an overnight train. On some of the routes that come up on Eurail there is a 6 berth couchette for ladies only, but I'm not seeing the availability I had expected. Do these couchettes or sleeper compartments book up that fast?! Anyone with experience able to advise me of how to tackle this part of the journey? TIA

Posted by
20090 posts

When I look at this, it seems that you will be traveling on trains for 24 hours straight going from Rome to London in one shot. Are you trying to get back at your family for all the long suffering trials they have put you through?

I am seeing a Freccia to Venezia Mestre, to the Nightjet to Stuttgart to an ICE to Frankfurt airport (with a 7 minute change) to an ICE to Brussels to the Eurostar to London.

The Nightjet website is telling me that there are no Couchettes or Sleeper Compartments available for your selected date. There maybe spots available if you split the family into all-male and all-female couchette compartments.

PS. I am seeing 4 seats on the July 31 to London Gatwick with luggage and seat selection for 165 EUR per person on Easyjet.

Posted by
3 posts

Ugh, this is what I was starting to think, but it's likely that I would be the one punished the length of that train journey with the constant repeat of the question "Are we there yet?" I think maybe I should go back to the drawing board and consider another stop somewhere in Europe or a flight back to London...

Posted by
3953 posts

Were you planning to stop anywhere between London and Rome to break up this trip coming or going? Perhaps if you posted your itinerary with dates people could look at segments that have availability. July is just around the corner and the Eurostar and any high speed trains in other countries require pass holders to have a separately purchased seat reservation. Sometimes the allocated seat reservations sell out. Do you have the app Eurail uses to keep track of your seat reservation requirements?

Posted by
3953 posts

Yes fly for which ever part of this back and forth journey is the most problematic to schedule.

EDIT: And if you end up using two flights and have no other good use for your Eurail passes can you get a refund before you travel since they would be unused?

Posted by
23268 posts

With the rise of discount airlines and frequent schedule, the overnight train is almost a thing of the past. Rome to London is a long ways and it is not well suited for an overnight train. Use EasyJet for a quick return to London. EVEN better yet -- fly home from Rome -- that would be even cheaper and far more convenient. And you might consider dumping the Eurail pass if you can return it.

Posted by
138 posts

We had Eurail passes last year and we’re able to use them for our needs but it was not as easy as I would have liked; not all routes/trains/times have full availability via Eurail. You may have to get creative and flexible or take different route if you are determined to take a night train.

I found it helpful to look at specific rail sites to see what was available and then pieced together what we needed via Eurail. Good luck and happy travels!

Posted by
2367 posts

Is there any chance you could.change tickets to.fly home.from.Rome.imstead.of back tracking to London? Am.sure it would cost.but to me it would be worth it unless cost is prohibitive.

Posted by
3 posts

I have between July 30th and Aug. 1st to travel between Rome and London, we fly back to North America on Aug. 2. I could make another stop somewhere along the way, but I booked hotel in London for the July 31- Aug.2nd. The journey from London to Rome is 2.5 weeks long with stops in Paris, Marseille, Nice, Florence and lastly Rome. It's the way back to London that I am trying to work out.

Posted by
540 posts

I would definitely agree with the others and recommend you fly back from Rome to London. Use that extra time to see something else along the way or another day in Southern Italy. 24 hours on a train will get old really fast without stops.

Posted by
10192 posts

I have between July 30th and Aug. 1st to travel between Rome and London,

Yikes. That is the absolutely worst weekend to be changing locations in Europe, a place where vacations are considered a requirement for healthy living. In France, it's called the crossover. The July vacationers are returning and the August vacationers are leaving. Those trains will be packed to the rafters. July 15 to August 15 is the heaviest vacation period of the whole summer.

Whatever you do, get your tickets soon!

I'd never choose to ride trains that far in one trip without stopping for visits. Air conditioning breaks. Trains are delayed. Toilets get full. Food cars are closed or run out.

Also, be aware that the airports will be full, too, but you could weigh the pros and cons of flying on the 31st as opposed to the 30th. This is where the Italian locals could give you good advice.

Posted by
1652 posts

You're doing this the wrong way.

If your intention is to reserve trains before flying to Europe you should not have bought the Eurail Pass in the first place. The pass is for people who just fly to Europe and then see where they go next once they are there.

But now that you have your pass you will have to live with it. A few hints:

  • Go to www.seat61.com, and spend some time with that website. Lots of information there.
  • Do not expect to find night trains on every route you want to take. In fact, for your route there are no convenient night train options, unless you want to make a detour via Germany.

My suggestion would be to break the journey somewhere interesting. Torino for example, or Lyon, and use day time trains.

Posted by
3812 posts

in case you can't get your money back from Eurail, Why don't you make an intermediate stop in Paris and/or Lyon?

Otherwise you could spend a few days in the 2 Italian cities where you can transfer into the direct high speed train to Rome: Turin and Milan.

Bologna and Florence are also on the way.