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Reserve train and plane in advance or just book tix there?

Interested in being spontaneous, but have a small budget. Just wondering if it is going to make a huge difference to reserve train and plane in advance for travel in early October.

Two questions really:
1. I arrive in Paris in just 3 weeks, and I thought about reserving the TGV to Lyon... however if my flight is delayed or immigration takes awhile that seems not worth it since I could either miss my train, or have to hang out for four hours or so waiting for that specific train. It would be $59 if I book now.

  1. I saw some very inexpensive flights within Europe which is very tempting. However, then I won't be able to be as flexible with what I want to do- maybe stay longer some places, or leave sooner. Is it possible to get low prices even last-minute?

Thank you so much for your help!

Posted by
11613 posts

My experience is that flights between European cities are generally higher the longer you wait to buy them, and baggage can cost more if you buy at the airport.

I would not plan on a flight-to-train connection on the same day unless you leave a good time cushion.

Spontaneity has become expensive.

Posted by
20178 posts

Ah, the eternal dilemma, price vs flexibility. The more flexible you are, the more you pay. If you commit even just 4 or 5 days in advance, looks like big savings. A fully flexible ticket from CDG to Lyon is 85 to 102 EUR, but if you stay in Paris a few days first, tickets are as low as 29 EUR, nonrefundable. Flights with say, Easyjet, are similar. There is a price for everything, and now you know the price of "flexibility".

Posted by
1625 posts

I am always on a budget and find that when traveling by train for a long distance I get the best price by booking in advance. Same with airfare and accommodations.

Posted by
14539 posts

Hi,

I did something similar on arrival day from SFO in 2014, but took the train instead, landed in Frankfurt at ca 10 am, which was on time but couldn't get myself out of the airport, ie just dilly dallied. But I gave myself four hours before boarding the ICE train to Berlin Hbf. Doing a connecting flight at FRA to Berlin Tegel was not an option .

My experience has been if you land in the morning, be it FRA or Paris CDG, or London going through Immigration/Border Control is done relatively quickly, a lot fewer people than the long lines in the late afternoon. After lunch at Frankfurt Hbf, at ca 1400 I took the ICE train to Berlin to stay the first night. I had calculated on getting to Berlin Hbf between ca 1830-1930.

Posted by
3 posts

Thanks for the replies. I arrive at 12:55pm from a connecting flight in Iceland, and the TGV to Lyon leaves at 2pm or 5pm. I may be the only person who doesn't have an interest in spending time in Paris! I have been there before several times, but prefer Lyon.

The thought of hanging out in the airport for 4 hours jet-lagged depresses me almost (but not quite as much) as missing the 2pm train reservation. (-;

Posted by
468 posts

We recently landed at 8 AM from Chicago and then went directly for our train to Normandy. We could have taken an earlier train but I too was afraid of missing the connection so we took a later one and had about 4 hours to kill in the train station. Luckily it had a mall in it and we were very jet lagged from the overnight flight so just hung out. Who knew we would be out of the airport with checked bags in less than 45 minutes and the drive into the city to the train station we would have no traffic. I was glad we were safe than sorry. Those non-refundable cheaper train tickets were worth the wait at the station.

Enjoy your trip.

Posted by
4132 posts

If you are flying Icelandair, sorry to say, do not make plans requiring the flights to be on time.

I'm not saying they won't be, just not to count on it.

Quite apart from that: If you wait to buy train tickets on the ground in Paris, it will be expensive and you will have to wait to buy your ticket. A shame to miss that 2 o'clock because you were still queuing to see a ticket agent!

A better bet if you are willing to pay more is to buy a refundable ticket in advance. Or buy tickets on both trains, if that is cheaper, and throw away the one you do not need. if it's worth it to you, I mean.

By the way, last summer I found some cheap tickets on SNCF that were not for sale on the other sites, for the Lyon-deGaulle run.

Posted by
3 posts

Thanks for the helpful comments. Obviously I am wishing to have my cake and eat it too, but haven't been to Europe in over a decade so wasn't sure about the last-minute fares being higher like they are here.

I have decided (pretty much) that I will get a 5 day train pass so that I only have to pay an $11 reservation fee for the TGV. I think I will come pretty close to making it worth the money, and it will allow me to be a bit spontaneous within the 2 main countries I am visiting!

Posted by
27180 posts

The SNCF has limits on how many reservations are available to railpass holders. You may end up needing to take a second-choice train or settle for a second-class seat.

Posted by
14539 posts

If you want to be spontaneous, preserve the option of flexibility but have a limited budget, that still can be done without locking yourself in. It depends where you travel and what type of train, ie the time you're willing to take in getting to the destination. Traveling in Austria on the Westbahn gives the best flexibility and price. You can take a regional train, no reservations taken, maybe transfer once or twice but you pay a much cheaper ticket than going on the ICE or IC or the TGV in France. Compare the time invested Paris to Metz or Strasbourg on the TGV vs the regional trains.