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Reservations for hourly trains?

We got our eurail passes for benelux, france and italy. Many of the trains we're taking, especially up north, run hourly, and we will be doing most of our train travel on weekdays. Do we need to have reservations still? I'm afraid that it will cancel out all the money we saved getting a eurail pass, rather than going point to point:(

If so, can we wait to get reservations a day ahead of time, once we arrive? i.e. get into amsterdam and immediately make reservations for the train to brussels the next morning?

Thanks for any help!!

Posted by
1167 posts

Unless you are travelling during a busy holiday period or on trains where reservations are compulsory, you probably don't need a reservation. And if you make them very far in advance you lose a lot of flexibility in your schedule.

Posted by
19095 posts

If you are talking about regional trains, they probably probably don't even have reservations. For regular express trains that run hourly, I don't think think you need reservation. If you want them, over there, they are probably €4 per seat, and you could surely find available reservations a day or so before.

However, if you are talking about a "premium" train, like Thalys or TGV, then you should have reservations. Most of the cost of "reservations" on Thalys is a supplement because Eurail does not completely pay for your fare, so you will have to pay it anyway. "Passholder fares" on these trains are limit, so get them in advance, even if it is as late as the day you arrive. I have heard horror stories of people with railpasses being unable to get out of Brussels when they want to in peak times because all the passholder fare are already sold out.

Posted by
8700 posts

If you take an IC train rather than a Thalys train from Amsterdam to Brussels, all you need to do is show up at the station and jump on the train. The IC trains are just as fast and no reservations are possible.

Posted by
405 posts

In Italy you might be fined (need to pay a supplement) if you board some of the faster trains in Italy with just a pass without having paid the supplement before boarding. it's best to check with an agent before boarding. give the agent the train number to simplify things. if you don't speak Italian and find an agent who doesn't speak English, write down the train number beforehand and print the question "BISOGNA FARE UNA PRENOTAZIONE O PAGARE UN SUPPLEMENTO?" and show him your pass.

Posted by
6898 posts

Lindsey, you're separating "reservation" from the ticket. You can't reserve a ticket in advance. Since you have a pass, your are reserving a seat on a train. That's the reservation. Just show up at the train station, show your pass and for faster trains, pay a "reservation" fee. As Susan mentioned, don't get on a fast Italian train without first paying for the supplement. In Italy, these fees run from 3Euro to 30Euro on the Eurostar trains.

If you want to avoid the fees in Italy, jump on the slower R and IC trains. They're slower because they stop at every stop. As mentioned above, these class of trains have no reservations or seat assignments. You just get on and take your seat. Just like MARTA in Atlanta. The ICPlus, AV, ES and night trains will require seat assignments (better known as "reservations").

Posted by
683 posts

Just a quick observation. You mentioned that you had saved $$$$ by getting a railpass as opposed to buying p2p tix. That is rarely the case. Bcuz you must buy 1st class (unless you are kids), your fare on each train works out to about double what you pay for 2d class p2ps

Posted by
405 posts

just to clarify... if you have a pass and board a faster train in Italy without paying the supplement ahead of time, not only will the ticket checker on board (il controllore) make you pay the supplement, but you will also have to pay a fine (ouch)

Posted by
30 posts

Thank you everyone for your helpful advice. I rechecked the figures today, and even after paying supplements we still save over $50 with our railpasses, not much in the scheme of things maybe, but gives us peace of mind and every little bit helps! I think I understand the train system a little better, from your answers and my research, so thanks!

Posted by
359 posts

I'm with you Lindsey; got the same (B/F/I) pass, doing some 'fast/overnite' trains on our trip (necessary reservations already booked) and feel more relaxed knowing everything's done. Doing some day trips on IC trains too, obviously, but when I 'shook the tree', I'm not going to jeopardize peace of mind to save $100 on a $10K trip. You have fun and take full advantage of your pass on the short haul/IC trains from your home bases.

Posted by
30 posts

Thanks Geoff,makes me feel better!:) I hope y'all have a great trip as well

Posted by
4555 posts

To that end, just a reminder for those considering comparing passes to point-to-point tickets. DON'T do the comparison using Rick's site, RailEurope's, or any other site that's geared to sell passes. You will find most of their point to point tickets priced MUCH higher than can be obtained via the web at the national rail sites. If you have a proposed itinerary, you can always post it here, and there are many who will be able to point you to the correct websites to do a comparison.