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Rail pass vs Point to Point - Am I missing something?

This site as well as a couple other places seem to recommend a point to point ticket for a single day journey in one country (Nice, FR to Paris, FR in my case). It looks like I can get a one-day single-country Eurail pass for half the cost of a point to point ticket on SNCF. I haven't travelled by train in Europe for over 40 years so wondering if that sounds right or I might be missing something. No other train travel is planned for this trip.

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You are probably comparing a high speed train ticket purchased, day of travel, to the Eurail pass. High speed train tickets can be purchased in advance (about 3 months), typically for half the price. Also, I've never used a rail pass, but I believe you would have to pay for a seat reservation.

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I used a German Rail pass in 1988 (16 days, every day, for $160 - $10 a day). I think that, even at the lower ticket prices in 1988, I still made it pay.

I again used a rail pass (again a German Rail pass) in 2000. When I got back from the trip, I added up the point-point price of all of the rail connection I had made and figured I had just about broken even. And that was before such saving as Länder- and Sparpreis-Tickets.

Now, before every trip, when I have a good idea of what connections I will be taking, I compare the price with discounted tickets and passes, and a rail pass never comes close to being competitive. My style of travel is probably different from yours; if you do a lot of jumping about, long distances every day, you might save money with a rail pass. But you should do the comparison, you probably won't save with a rail pass.

Posted by
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I think the main point is, for France, Nice to Paris, that is a high speed train. Yes you can get a one day Eurail pass for 75 euro, and a month out a ticket is 1.5 to 2 times that, BUT...then you need to pay and secure a reservation for when you want to travel at an additional cost, plus the time and day you want to travel may not be available for a Eurail pass holder. You also can not get a reservation without a pass, and to buy a pass is likely mostly non-refundable.

If you are super flexible, you might make everything work, if you need to travel the morning of X date, it might not happen.

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if that sounds right or I might be missing something

There are a limited number of seats available to Eurailpass holders on the TGV. You also have to pay a compulsory seat reservation fee (10 to 20 EUR for domestic trains) to get one of those places. Read this FAQ about Eurail constraints:
https://www.eurail.com/en/plan-your-trip/about-reservations/reservations-france

If you buy point-to-point tickets in advance you will usually save money. Make sure you are looking at prices on the SNCF website for the day you plan to travel. For example:
1) Nice to Paris tomorrow (July 20) - prices range from 99 to 142 EUR and several of the trains are fully booked.
2) Nice to Paris in 2 months (on Sept 20) prices currently range from 29 to 72 EUR.

Posted by
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In Europe the way to save big on high-speed train tickets is to buy them when they first go up for sale. SNCF— France’s national train company -—has discounted “Prem’s” tickets for TGV trains that first go up for sale online
3 months in advance of the train’s departure date. You didn’t say what date you were planning to travel from Nice to Paris. A quick check of high-speed trains traveling two months from now on September 19 shows there are still tickets for as little as $35. In October there are $29 TGV tickets available. You can quickly check what trains schedules and ticket prices look like for the date you want at www.TheTrainline.com.

www.SNCF-connect.com is the website to get them without any booking fees.

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19274 posts

Another thing to consider, is that on SNCF, a rail pass only gets you from point A to point B by the lowest level train available. anything above a regional milk run, definitely a TGV, probably requires a "passholder reservation". This is more than a simple seat reservation. It is a surcharge for using a train that SNCF considers better than the lowest level provided by the rail pass. These pass holder reservations are not cheap, particularly for a TGV, and the number per train is limited. You might find that you cannot get on a specific train with your pass even though it is not sold out and there are full fare seats available.

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Thank you to everyone for your replies, they were all very helpful. It looks like there are many ways to do this, but the bottom line is that I waited too long to get the low-priced tickets (it's a month and a few days out). Fortunately, I was able to get seat reservations on the TGV using a Eurail pass. Cost was 24 Euro (additional to the Eurail pass).