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Rail Europe vs ?

I must be missing something. I'm trying to book Eurostar London to Paris for September 18 (9:22)and Thalys Paris to Bruges on September 26 (11:25). I checked the archived questions and so many said Rail Europe was more expensive, but I'm finding just the opposite. RE's total is $330. Eurostar is 181 pounds for trip to Paris, which I think is $289.06 today. Thalys trip may be slightly less. Also, I'll be charged 4% by my credit card for foreign currency exchange. Is there a better way? Has RE improved on their pricing? Please advise. Thanks

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In the first place, there are banks that charge only 1% foreign currency exchange on credit card (one of those is one of my banks). I hear there are even some credit cards that charge nothing. Most large banks get 3%. Yours is the first one I have heard of that charges 4%.

Second, last I checked, $330 (from Rail Europe, you said) was more than $289 (from EuroStar, you said). Doesn't that mean that RailEurope is more expensive?

There seems to be something wrong with your numbers. For the 8:55 train from London, I see $130 from both RailEurope and from EuroStar. I don't know if your bank charges a foreign currency fee for abroad charges in USD. RailEurope charges $18 per order for handling. EuroStar's exchangeable, non-refundable fare for that train is $207; RailEuropes's exchangeable/refundable fare is $262, so RailEurope is a lot more expensive for a ticket you can exchange. RailEurope's $262 ticket is partially refundable (78%), but read the conditions. It's only refundable if you apply more than 3 days in advance or have the ticket stamped as "not used" at the station of origin (London).

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But, London to Paris is not the only connection in Europe. You can get a fully flexible, refundable, exchangeable ticket from Frankfurt to Munich from the Bahn for €91 ($just under $120, today). They'll send you a PDF file you can print at home, no mailing or handling fees. RailEurope charges $137 for that same ticket (plus handling), which is non-refundable, non-exchangeable.

But wait, it gets better. The Bahn gives you a choice. You can pick a slightly slower IC and pay only €73 ($96). This fare is also fully flexible, refundable and exchangeable.

And, if you get a non-refundable, non-exchangeable ticket, like you buy from RailEurope, and get it in advance (I just tried 1 mo.), you can pay as little as €29 ($38).

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Sorry Lee for the miscommunication. I should have said that I was buying 2 tickets. Also, maybe the credit card charge was 3%. We need specific times because we plan to rent a car to drive to Normandy. $330 was Rail Europe's complete price for 2 to travel to Paris & Thalys to Bruges. I think the $18 fee was only if they mail the tickets. $289 was for the Eurostar(London to Paris) alone. The Thalys was an additional 50 euros. Thanks

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OK, it's difficult to do a comparison when you are comparing apple to oranges, not telling me the number of people, etc.

But here is another case. Frankfurt to Berlin. For the 9:13 nonstop ICE,
DB charges €113 ($149.50) at the counter for an exchangeable, refundable ticket.
RailEurope charges $168 for a non-refundable, non-exchangeable ticket,
However, you can purchase a non-refundable, non-exchangeable ticket from the Bahn, a month in advance, for €59 ($78), maybe less further in advance.

Anyway you look at it, RailEurope is more expensive.

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We might as well close the loop. Berlin to Munich.

DB sells a exchangeable, refundable tickets for €116 ($153).

The same route, a non-exchangeable, non-refundable ticket from RailEurope is $171.

A non-refundable, non-exchangeable ticket from DB, 1 month in advance is €69 ($91). If you buy it 3 months in advance, it's €29 ($38).