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Our transportation report

Loved, loved, loved the trains in Europe. We were in 8 countries and took the trains all trips except two. We flew easyJet from Rome to Athens and flew SwissJet from Athens to Zurich. Cheap and efficient.

Train advice-never buy first class tickets unless you are just too spoiled to book second class. We booked first class one time because the price was the same. The AC in the car broke down and we could not be moved to second class because it was full!!! It was very hot and especially so when we had a 45 min stop due to an accident. They did nothing to make us more comfortable, which is what you might expect from first class. We saw first class on all the trains and while the seats are a bit larger, they were not more comfy nor had more amenities. Second class had electrical plugs in most all trains so we were very happy to be able to charge up our devices. Many a time, we brought stuff and had a picnic on the train. Break out a bottle of wine if you wish.

We used the local subways systems heavily except in London. Their tube system was just too confusing and at the end of our trip we were just too tired to learn it, so we took taxis. We did not get great advance advice about the Athens subway system and booked a taxi from the airport into town. That cost us approx 40 euros. The train would have cost us about 20 euros had we taken the time to find the subway. Our hotel was near a stop. We did take the train back to the airport and it was great. Rome has an easy subway to navigate and most all the top sites are near a subway stop. We used the Paris subway extensively as we were not within walking distance of most sites. But it was very easy to figure out. London was hard in that London is so much larger, there were few express routes, most times you had to change trains. And although English is our language, the British were not helpful at all. We had an easier time with directions in Paris, where we spoke no French. We feel lucky we took the taxis in London , because we met two extraordinary drivers who talked us up a lot. We enjoyed that.

We took the vaporetto in Venice and loved it. Operators were so nice and helpful, we were blown away. My husband actually left his backpack on the vaporetto and got it back from lost and found a few days later. It had our camera in it so we thought it was lost forever. Company was so nice and helpful in locating it.

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I'm surprised that you didn't use the tube in London--my first trip ever abroad and by myself I found it ridiculously easy to use, starting with Heathrow to my hotel. I do understand being too tired, though, at the end of a trip--by the time I got to Prague on my recent trip I was DONE with people and maps and metros.

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Nice report, Jenny, and thank you! I'm in 100% agreement with you about 2nd-class carriages.

I'm a little surprised that you didn't take the tube in London too as cabs are very expensive there, and we found tube routing to be easy but I understand being too pooped to ponder as well. It's their ticketing system - which has changed quite a bit from the last time we were there - that I find somewhat confusing these days.

We found Paris' metro system to be easy as well.

Rome's metro is dead easy too but I would disagree that most main sites are near a stop? That system - until Line C is done - is somewhat limited, and doesn't serve a large area of city center. It wasn't a problem at all for us because we love to walk but one person's definition of 'near' being a couple of blocks may not be the same as someone else's 1/4 - 1/2 mile away?

I'm going by complaints I've read about having to walk just the distances from hoho bus stops to whatever attraction they claim to be 'near'! :O)

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We have a different opinion of train travel--if over 3 hours on "slow" trains. We're big fans of budget European airlines.

I remember coming in to Gard du Nord and going to the tourist information booth--where the young Parisians didn't speak English. Bull! It's not like they don't have thousands and thousands of English tourists coming through there daily.

We're big fans of public transit in every large city, and the subway systems are fast and efficient. Too bad Rome's subways just don't go all over town--just a big X. But if you learn how to navigate the Rome bus system, they can get you just about anywhere in the center city in just a few minutes. Otherwise, you'll walk yourself to death.

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Concerning the London Underground a phrase from a 1970s (American-authored) guidebook has stuck in my mind: 'if you could get lost in the London Underground for more than a minute, you could get lost in your own back yard'. It may be somewhat larger today (although many of the services later added onto the Underground Diagram were already around then) and it is certainly more crowded through the day, but it is still very well signed etc and involves a lot less walking at changes in general than say the Paris Metro.

For visitors the 'ticketing' shouldn't be difficult - buy an Oystercard, top up as necessary,and turn it in at the end of your trip. Or use your own contactless payment (card or phone). Yes it may be possible to squeeze the overall cost down, methods for which are discussed at length here, but it is really shaving at the cost for most.

Still if the taxis did it for you I'm not going to argue ... they can have their advantages for a party and may be worth spending the extra money.