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Need help getting to Brussels this Saturday, March 26th

Husband and I are supposed to be travelling from the United States to London/Heathrow to Brussels this Saturday, March 26th to take a riverboat cruise from Brussels. If the Brussels airport is still closed on Saturday, we are looking for alternate ways to get to Brussels and need help regarding these options. I am sorry for my ignorance in my explanation below - I really need help:

Option 1: Take Eurostar from London to Brussels. Not sure how difficult it will be to get from Heathrow airport to the Eurostar station and how much time we need to give ourselves to get there (given the distance and extra security measures). We've never been to London before, so we have no idea where we are going. Also, not sure that the Brussels-Midi station is open.

Option 2: Try to change our flight so that it goes from London to Amsterdam and then take a train via NS International, which may or may not be Thalys (I'm very confused about this). This appears to be the most direct option, in that the train leaves from the AMS airport (so no need to figure out how to get to the train). I don't know if this train station in Brussels is open.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated :)

-Jen

Posted by
7025 posts

Have you spoken to your airline regarding what their plans are for your flight if the airport is closed? If you have a through ticket to Brussels then it's their responsibility to get you there by whatever means. If their option won't get you to Brussels timely enough to catch your cruise, then you have to have a backup ready, but I would certainly start with them.

Posted by
6 posts

When I've spoken to the airport many times over the past two days, they never told me that they were obligated to get me there. I will call again. Thank you!

Posted by
16893 posts

The airline is obligated to get you there, but not necessarily on time.

If it seems necessary, I would choose Amsterdam, for the reason you already saw. The Thalys train from Amsterdam Schiphol airport direct to Brussels is a bit shorter travel time, more frequent, and maybe cheaper than the Eurostar from London St. Pancras (not even counting the travel time to reach St. Pancras from Heathrow).

Eurostar and Thalys trains were both expected to be back running today. They both use Brussels Midi, which is not the station that was attacked. The New York Times has this article dated yesterday about the Brussels airport.

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16893 posts

The link you provided shows an 8:33 (a.m.), which is Thalys. And yes, the 18:33 departure is also Thalys, train #9382.

Posted by
5326 posts

You haven't indicated the airline you are booked on. If it is British Airways they are allowing Brussels passengers with flights currently up to 29 March to change if space is available to flights to Frankfurt (FRA), Dusseldorf (DUS), Amsterdam (AMS), Paris (CDG,ORY), Luxembourg (LUX), or Rotterdam (RTM). Onward travel is then at the passenger's expense.

Posted by
23235 posts

Call you airline and ask to re-book through Amsterdam. They will be happy to do that since you would be one less person they have to get to Brussels - sometime. They should do it for no change in price. And maybe a direct flight. There is a big train ticket office in the Amsterdam airport so hit them and buy your ticket to Brussels. They will tell you where and how to get to the train station. It will be a little inconvenient but fairly easy. Amsterdam is a nicer airport than Heathrow.

Posted by
127 posts

Option 3: Thank your lucky stars you have trip insurance?

Seriously, I don't know if the insurance company would lump a terrorist attack up as an exception (like acts of war) but your situation points out why it is worth the investment to obtain insurance ahead of such a major trip.

Posted by
2745 posts

The airlines obligation does not override a closed airport. Not sure about that line of logic.

You need to get on the phone to your airline NOW. While you are thinking others are rebooking.

I think Eurostar is now running Paris to Brussels too so don't rule that out.

Figure out where the airline can fly you and come back for how to advice

Good luck

Posted by
32692 posts

Your second post said you had spoken to the airport. That may be a typo, but if it isn't then you should know that it is the airline you should be speaking to, not the airport.

Did you purchase the ticket direct from the airline or did you use a third party or travel agent?

Posted by
6 posts

Yes, I made a typo: I spoke to the airline, not the airport. I booked my tickets using American Airlines, using award miles for the travel. Therefore, since the international flights are on British Airways (a partner of American Airlines), AmAir says that I can only exchange my flights for other "award" seats that are available. Currently, there is one "award" seat available on the British Airways flight from London to Amsterdam, so we'll have to pay for the other seat if we choose the Amsterdam option (Thalys).

Thanks everyone for your help and advice.

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5835 posts

RE: The airline is obligated to get you there, but not necessarily on time.

You will need to read your Contract of Carriage to get a better understanding of what the airline is obligated to do. The Force Majeure clause will likely be applicable. For Delta, Rule 80 addresses FLIGHT DELAYS/CANCELLATIONS in part as follows:

A. Flight Schedules are Not Guaranteed
Delta will exercise reasonable efforts to carry passengers and their baggage according to Delta’s published
schedules and the schedule reflected on the passenger’s ticket, but published schedules, flight times, aircraft
type, seat assignments, and similar details reflected in the ticket or Delta’s published schedules are not
guaranteed and form no part of this contract. Delta may substitute alternate carriers or aircraft, delay or
cancel flights, change seat assignments, and alter or omit stopping places shown on the ticket at any time.
Schedules are subject to change without notice. Except as stated in this rule and as provided in Rule 55,
Delta will have no liability for making connections, failing to operate any flight according to schedule,
changing the schedule for any flight, changing seat assignments or aircraft types, or revising the routings by
which Delta carries the passenger from the ticketed origin to destination.

B. Delta’s Liability in the Event of Schedule Changes, Delays and Flight Cancellations
In the event of flight cancellation, diversion, delays of greater than 90 minutes, or delays that will cause a
passenger to miss connections, Delta will (at passenger’s request) cancel the remaining ticket and refund the
unused portion of the ticket and unused ancillary fees in the original form of payment in accordance with
Rule 90(b) of these conditions of carriage. If the passenger does not request a refund and cancellation of
the ticket, Delta will transport the passenger to the destination on Delta’s next flight on which seats are
available in the class of service originally purchased. At Delta’s sole discretion and if acceptable to the
passenger, Delta may arrange for the passenger to travel on another carrier or via ground transportation.
If
acceptable to the passenger, Delta will provide transportation in a lower class of service, in which case the
passenger may be entitled to a partial refund. If space on the next available flight is available only in a higher
class of service than purchased, Delta will transport the passenger on the flight, although Delta reserves the
right to upgrade other passengers on the flight according to its upgrade priority policy to make space in the
class of service originally purchased.

C. Delta’s Liability For Additional Amenities in the Event of Schedule Changes, Delays and Flight
Cancellations
1. Except as provided above, Delta shall have no liability if the flight cancellation, diversion or delay was
due to force majeure. As used in this rule, “force majeure” means actual, threatened or reported:
(a) Weather conditions or acts of God
(b) Riots, civil unrest, embargoes, war, hostilities, or unsettled international conditions
(c) Strikes, work stoppages, slowdowns, lockout, or any other labor-related dispute
(d) Government regulation, demand, directive or requirement
(e) Shortages of labor, fuel, or facilities
(f) Any other condition beyond Delta’s control or any fact not reasonably foreseen by Delta

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My advice above was assuming you had a British Airways plated ticket (ie one starting 125-). If you have a ticket issued by American Airlines (001-) then you will be subject to their rules in the situation. However, it may be worth having a word directly with BA in case they are able to sort something out with AA.

Posted by
2745 posts

I hope you booked something yesterday

The Brussels airport website as of this morning still indicated the airport officials had not even had access to the building which I think makes it highly unlikely you will be flying in there Saturday

Posted by
6 posts

Thanks everyone for your help. We were able to re-book our flight from London and land in Amsterdam. We have tickets on the Thalys to Brussels. I really appreciate everyone's advice.

Posted by
32692 posts

Congratulations

Have a lovely time...