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In Which Order?

We are planning our first trip to Ireland, Scotland and England as a retirement celebration for my husband (in May/June 2026.) I have Rick’s guidebooks and have done a bunch of preliminary research, but am asking for opinions:

  1. These are going to be our “stops” on this trip. In which order should we visit the destinations? We will fly out of Detroit (or perhaps Indianapolis) and will do open jaw, so not necessary to rerurn to the stating point. Galway, Dublin, Edinburgh, Grassington, London.

  2. What is the optimal mode of transportation between each stop? We do not want to rent a car…we did the “left side of the road” driving in Australia and my husband did not find that at all relaxing. So planes, trains, buses, donkeys🙃…

  3. From simply a vacation planning point of view, which one would you suggest we do first…get overwhelmed by London at the beginning, middle or end!?

Surprisingly, when I have googled these questions, I have gotten MANY different answers, including from AI! So looking for some expert advice. Budget is not as much of a concern as ease and good use of our vacation time.

Thanks for any help. No need to remind me that this is too much for one trip. Our timeline is fluid and we will build in some down days. But we are happy to hit the high spots in this go round, and come back to explore our favorites more fully sometime soon. Many thanks!

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IMO, your transatlantic flights are always the starting point. You're likely to find direct flights only to/from Dublin and London, so find the ones that work best for you. You don't have to fly open jaw. You can book separate one-way tickets on different airlines if that suits you.
You can travel between Dublin and Galway by train (to/from the city) or bus (to/from Dublin Airport). If you don't want to backtrack through Dublin, you could use Shannon airport to/from either Edinburgh or London.
You can travel between Dublin and London or Edinburgh by plane or by a combination of ferry and train. Here is some info:
https://www.seat61.com/train-and-ferry-to-dublin.htm
I'll leave it to Stuart (isn31c) to get you to Grassington from either Edinburgh or London, but that seems like the order.
If flying into Dublin: Dublin, Galway, Edinburgh, Grassington, London; the reverse if flying into London.

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All else being equal, I'd start in London and finish in Dublin. Dublin has US preclearance so you'd go through US immigration and customs there and then land in the US as a domestic flight. It'll save you from the queues in the US.

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@G3rryCee's answer is interesting as my first thought was to fly United to Shannon connecting at O'Hare.
Shannon to Galway use the hourly #51 bus.

However it 'should' be cheaper to arrive into London and leave from Dublin or Shannon as that way you avoid paying UK departure tax, and do US pre-clearance before boarding in Ireland.

Either way Ryanair fly from Shannon to Edinburgh.

From Edinburgh to Grassington my far preferred route by every metric would be train to Carlisle, change for the train to Skipton via the Settle/Carlisle line. Then the more or less hourly bus #72 from outside the station to Grassington.

However you could take the hourly train direct from Edinburgh to Leeds, connecting there for Skipton as below.

Grassington to London there are in essence four routes in my personal order of preference-
a- Bus back to Skipton, train 6x a day to Lancaster for the hourly train to London Euston
b- Bus back to Skipton Bus Station, hourly bus #280 for the two hour scenic ride to Preston for the same hourly train to London Euston
c- [on a Monday, Wednesday or Friday only]- bus #74 to Ilkley for the half hourly train to Leeds, for a connecting half hourly train to London Kings Cross
d- Bus back to Skipton, half hourly train to Leeds, for a connecting half hourly train to London Kings Cross. There is a once a day Skipton to London Kings Cross train. But it leaves too early/arrives too late for a bus to Grassington, so you would have to use a donkey (sorry, taxi) for that leg.

If routeing via Carlisle or Lancaster you would book the fare in two halves- Edinburgh to Carlisle, Carlisle to Skipton; Skipton to Lancaster, Lancaster to London.
Routeing via Leeds book as Skipton to Leeds, Leeds to London.

As this is a retirement present book first class on the Lancaster or Leeds to London trains, and enjoy the included meal, alcohol and more room.
Leeds, Kings Cross and Euston also have pre and post journey first class lounges.

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Personally I’d base the flight on the best cost option and as I fly from LAX has to be non stop.

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We just returned from a similar trip but focused on small towns. Landed in London, trains through GB, flew from Edinburgh to Dublin, train to Tralee and rented a car only for driving around Dingle, train back to Dublin and flew home. The pre-clearance in Dublin saved so much time upon arrival as we just got off plane at a regular gate without need for customs or immigration. The trains in GB were easy to book and you can get a two together Railcard to get 33% off each ticket. You can get the same discount for seniors if you are both over 65.

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You can get the same discount for seniors if you are both over 65.

Over 60

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We did something similar in September and October 2023. Flew from Newark to Edinburgh and spent six days and used train and buses for transport and two different day trips to St..Andrews and Loch Ness. Then train to London for eight days again all public transport metro, buses, train and taxi. Perfect trip. We then went to Paris by Eurostar and home.from there. On a different trip we went to London and flew to Dublin and home.from.there. All.of this was very easy with a little bit of planning. We stayed very close.to Waterloo station in London as we knew we.would be talking numerous train trips so.this worked.out well. Someone mentioned buying one way tickets instead of multi city and in the past we checked that option but it was very expensive to do the air fare that way. Just check the prices. We did use a taxi a.lot more.than in the past for convenience since I had broken my back and needed to.conserve my energy at times and that also.worked.out well. Best of luck and enjoy.

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Thank you all…this forum rocks! Special thanks to isn31c for taking the time for such awesome detail in your response. I feel like we’re in very good hands for that leg of the trip! And G3rry Cee thanks for the article. I will take some time to comb through that!

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I didn’t want to start a whole new thread…hoping some posters will find this one and help a girl out!

So, I have NEVER had so much trouble planning an itinerary in my life! I am the Type A of the group, and I enjoy the planning stages. (Ok, I get a little obsessed actually.) This dynamic works for the group, as my husband and the other couple we travel with are what my daughter calls “passenger princesses.” I do the research, make all the arrangements and they make sure we have a good time! They are also very easy to please! No research = no specific expectations, right?!

The other couple has let us know that they only have 10-11 days, as he is still working. So, we have decided to save Ireland for another trip of its own, and just concentrate on Scotland and England. After their 10 days with us, my husband and I want to take the Eurostar to Paris for a few days. (This will be our second trip to Paris, as we did RS HOF tour a couple of years ago, so this time we just want to live like locals…very low key!)

So…I simply cannot decide how to carve up this trip. I have read so much info that my head is spinning. My goal is to use our fresh tourist legs to hit it hard at the beginning, have a peaceful interlude somewhere in a small village, and then go out with a bang!

New trip order: Scotland, Grassington, London. They will fly home from London and we will go home from Paris. Why Grassington? Small village interlude, and it’s already researched above..ha! I am open for suggestions for another convenient town, but it’s a MUST to be able to have a good country walk across fields up and over the stiles. Throw in sheepdogs and I’m sold!

But adding in this stop is really making the Scotland itinerary so short. If we count on 2 nights in Grassington and 4 nights in London, that only leaves 4 nights in Scotland. Originally, I thought to fly into Edinburgh for the first 2 nights, then do a Rabbie’s overnight to the Highlands which brings us back to Ed before heading to Grassington. But I’m worried it will feel like we spent all of our Scotland leg in the tour bus. Then I thought what if we start in Inverness and day trip, then two nights in Ed. Same dilemma but less backtracking. Then I thought…is there a small village in Scotland that works as my “Grassington” so I can skip that leg and go directly to London? Then I thought about just staying home! LOL!

So, I know it’s a short time, but it’s all we’ve got, and I want to feel like I’ve been to Scotland, you know? This is the first time I’ve felt like hiring a local to help me plan (which is an option) but I thought I’d try here first. Thanks for reading my book!

Day 1- Arrive Scotland
Day 2 - Scotland
Day 3 - Scotland
Day 4 - Scotland
Day 5 - travel to Grassington (or…)
Day 6 - Grassington (or…)
Day 7 - travel to London
Day 8 - London
Day 9 - London
Day 10 - London
Day 11- Travel home/Paris
Day 12- Paris
Day 13- Paris
Day 14 - Travel home

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For a Scottish 'Grassington' in the Inverness area, I know I sound like a broken record but Strathpeffer would be a nice choice. It has a direct hourly bus to Inverness airport, and I can immediately think of three walks from the village centre.
However Inverness is a long way north.

If you are thinking Edinburgh somewhere in East Lothian. Maybe North Berwick (trains and buses to Edinburgh and great coastal walking).
There are several other more villagey places nearby- Dirleton is especially attractive.
Or East Linton (a lovely village on the John Muir Way. It is on the ECML so has trains and buses into Edinburgh. The trains are kind of hourly but a slightly eclectic version of hourly.

PS- I've just googled sheepdogs, Edinburgh and found Carcant Farm, Heriot (Neth Hill Border Collies). Go to Gorebridge on the train, then local taxi. Bus X95 Edinburgh to Galashiels gets you to Heriot village.