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How to avoid Germany on a Railpass? Or cheap alternative?

Thanks to advice from Helpline users, I'm now planning to purchase a 5-country Pass for my trip next month. I have a little problem, however: Germany isn't one of my countries so how do I travel back west from Prague? One option is to use the Bavaria pass that Lee in Colorado mentioned? Another option is to travel back through Austria and Switzerland. Any other ideas? Here's the loose itinerary. Note that I'm traveling solo and couchsurfing/hosteling. ITINERARY Available dates Dec. 10-Jan. 7 Dec. 10, Sat – arrive Vitrolles-Marseille airport – (20:00/8 p.m.). Stay in area. Dec. 11, Sun – Train to Avignon. Dec. 12, Mon – Avignon. Dec. 13, Tues - Avignon/Arles. Dec. 14, Wed – Train to Geneva. Stay in Geneva. Dec. 15, Thurs - Explore Geneva. Stay in Geneva or head to Lausanne. Dec. 16, Fri – Train to Montreux. Visit castle in Montreux. Stay there? Dec. 17, Sat – Scenic train to Interlaken. Connect to Berner Oberland. Spend night ? Dec. 18, Sun – Train to Luzern. Stay in Luzern. Dec. 19, Mon – Explore Luzern. Stay in Luzern. Dec. 20, Tues – Train to Vienna. Stay in Vienna. Dec. 21, Wed – Stay in Vienna. Dec. 22 – Train to Prague. Stay in Prague. Dec. 23-25 – Stay in Prague. Dec. 26 – Train west toward? Dec. 27 – ? Dec. 28 – Arrive Brussels. Stay in Brussels. Dec. 29 - Train Bruges. Stay in Bruges Dec. 30 – Stay in Bruges. Dec. 31 – Train to Amsterdam. Stay in Amsterdam. Jan. 1 – Stay in Amsterdam. Jan. 2 – Amsterdam Jan. 3 – Fly back to Birmingham, UK. Thanks again! Kristin

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Unless you want a long train trip across Germany or around that country, I suggest you look for a flight from Prague to Brussels. I like www.whichbudget.com, but there are other websites that provide similar info. My other suggestion is this: since, as I understand it, train tickets in Belgium and the Netherlands are fairly inexpensive, choose Germany as one of your five countries instead of Benelux. Buy point-point tickets for the Benelux countries. If you want a pass that will cover all six countries (Benelux = one country) you could just buy a Global Pass for the number of days you need. Ten days in two months would cost $884 according to the Railpasses section on this website. And, finally, if you are willing to do some homework, you can save money (maybe a couple hundred dollars or pounds) with a 5-country pass for 6 days in two months, and then pay cash for tickets on the shorter trips. The Railpasses section has a lot of information regarding railpasses. Depending on how you count the train days, you have 8 or 9 travel days on your schedule. If you buy a pass that is good for 6 days, you can buy inexpensive tickets for a couple of the short rides. Marseilles to Avignon is a short ride. One or two of the Swiss train trips would be short. Brussels to Bruges and Bruges to Amsterdam would be inexpensive. I have used railpasses a few times. I usually buy extra days, then don't use them. I like the prepaid convenience of a pass, but they don't always save money. It is usually necessary to buy a reservation for each leg of the train trip.

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The long distance through Germany on 12/26 justifies a pass that includes Germany. The long trip to Vienna for such a short brief visit is not really worth it. I suggest you drop Austria from your 5-country pass and add Germany. As with Vienna, your time in Prague is pathetically short. Why not see Salzburg instead of Vienna, which CAN be seen in a day, then head straight to Prague for more time there? Route yourself to Salzburg via Munich. Salzburg is on the border, so I think you don't need an Austria authorization on your pass. (Or you might have to pay a Euro or two for a few minutes' travel time in Austria?) Then go to Prague via Munich.

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Thanks! I'm mulling over my options, still. (As for pathetically short stops, I agree. But one can only do so much during a winter break from classes. I'm trying to see as much as possible but that generally means 2-4 nights tops in a place.)

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Trains tickets in Belgium and NEtherlands are anything but "inexpensive". Both countries suck in terms of lack of advanced purchase discount (I'm living in the Netherlands atm), and fares, on a per-km based, are very high.