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Going CRAZY! Help with p2p or Global Pass

I've looked for information on the Bhan website, on other websites, read the RS railpass section, and still can't decide which one, p2p or Global Pass, is more convenient.

This is my route:
Amsterdam -Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Munich - Venice - Rome (while in Rome we'll go to Pompeii) - Florence (while in Florence we'll go to Pisa) - Lucerne - Paris

I've read about fees to be paid for Eurail passholders. Does it mean we'll have to pay a fee everytime we board a train, besides the night train??? If so, wouldn't it be cheaper P2P or does anyway the Global Pass it's going to be cheaper.

Please, help me on this. I need people who explains this on a 5 year-old language.
Thanks!!!

Posted by
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Veronica, Rick provides a list of passholder "reservation" fees for all countries here.

Whereas in Germany those fees really are just to reserve a seat on the train, on some other trains, such as Italian Eurostar (ES* on the Trenitalia website), it is a fee to use a "premium" train. On some other trains, like Intercity (IC), you can ride with just your railpass, although inexpensive reservations (€3-4) are recommended; on regional trains, no reservations are needed or possible. Learn to use the Trenitalia website to see what kind of trains run when. You will find that on some heavily traveled lines (Florence to Rome, for instance) most of the trains will be these Eurostars, and if you don't want to pay the reservation fee, your choices will be limited.

Posted by
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Veronica, you asked the same question about paying a fee every time you board a train in "To the Boot". It's been answered twice for Italy. Again, a fee is required on some trains in some countries. Raileurope and the RS site clearly describes which countries and which trains require a fee. You need to dig a bit on both sites. CLICK HERE to see a website that explains where most of these fees occur.

You need to be more specific on how much train travel you will do in these different countries for anybody to determine if a global pass or P2P is less expensive. The global pass is always the easy way out but often is the most expensive.

Posted by
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My excuses. Already delete the other post since I'cve noticed it was post on the wrong forum.
Anyway, on the "how much train travel you will do in these different countries", let's say it's only the country to country travel. Does it makes a big difference in terms of the money to be spent?

Posted by
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If you are able to commit to specific dates and times and to book well in advance on the various national rail Web sites for the countries in which you will be traveling, you can get cheap discount fares for most of your routes. This will be far cheaper than a railpass. Here are some examples.

Amsterdam-Berlin: €39 for a day route; €49 for a couchette bunk on the night train.

Berlin-Prague: €29.

Prague-Vienna: €19.

Vienna-Munich: €29 for a day route; €49 for a couchette bunk on the night train.

Munich-Venice: €65 for a day route; €69 for couchette bunk on the night train.

Rome-Lucern: €75.

Lucern-Paris requires a change in either Bern or Basel. The Bern-Paris leg can be as low as €25 and the Basel-Paris leg can be as low as €20.

Posted by
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Veronica, you really should get familiar with the Trenitalia (Italian Rail) website.

If you put in "Rome" to "Florence" (or Roma to Firenze, in Italian), you will get the schedule of trains from Rome to Florence. For a one hour period, I saw 1 regional connection, 1 IC (Intercity train) connection, and three Eurostar (ES/AV) connections. If you click the shopping cart icon after a connection, you can get the fare. You could use you railpass to go by regional train with no extra charge, by IC for no extra charge (or just a few Euro for a seat reservation), or by Eurostar. Using your pass on Eurostar you would pay a surcharge (reservation) of about €18, per person and per train. That's per Rick's table; it's not shown on the Trenitalia site. P2P ES full (standard) fare is €36, and if you buy your ticket by at least the night before, you might get a 20% discount off of that (Amica fare, €28,90). So you're really paying only about €11 more for P2P. Unless you have a lot of train travel legs in one day, a railpass won't pay.