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Germany railpass use on Rhine Valley milk trains

I am going to Germany next month and purchased a 4 day railpass. Is the railpass valid for use on the milk trains in the Rhine Valley like between St. Goar and Bacharach? Thanks.

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WE used ours all throughout the Rhine and never had a problem. Actually it was rare that they would even come by and check our rail passes!

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You can certainly use those trains, as well as the KD line of boats that travel along the Rhine.

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Certainly, either the German Rail pass or the Eurail pass is valid on all the trains run by German Rail (the Bahn), and these are trains of the Bahn.

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Thanks everyone for your quick replies. Much appreciated.

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Trains up and down the Rhine valley are super-cheap - if you can save a day off your railpass I'd choose that.

If you want to save a day of your railpass, get a Laender-ticket for Rhineland-Pfalz for the days you're there. I don't know if it covers the KD boats (perhaps Lee could fill us in) but it's 19 euros/day for 1 or 29 euros/day for 2-5 people. Buying tickets as you go (if you're only going between a few cities) might even be cheaper than that.

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I don't believe the Rheinland-Pfalz-Ticket covers the KD boats. I've never tried to use it; maybe someone else has. The KD website doesn't indicate that they accept it. However, the KD website does say this,

"At each KD landing stage you will receive a 20% discount off the KD schedule tariffs when you present a valid German Rail ticket.".

They are not specific about which German Rail ticket they take: Is it any ticket, or only from somewhere without a KD landing stage? Could you take the train from St. Goar to Bacharach and get the discount back to St. Goar? Are Länder tickets, such as the Rheinland-Pfalz-Ticket, considered valid for the discount?

The webpage for the Rheinland-Pfalz-Ticket also does NOT indicate that the RL-P-Ticket is valid for KD boats, although it does indicate that can be used for the St. Goar to St. Goarshausen Loreley Ferry (Fähre).

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Most of the Rhein, from Oberwesel to Remagen, and up the Mosel to Bullay, is in the Verkehrsverbund-Rhein-Mosel (VRM, local transit district), and they sell an all day pass for unlimited rides in the entire district for €17 for one person, €20 for up to five (less for day passes in a smaller areas). Note that Bacharach is just OUTSIDE the district.

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BTW, someone said earlier that the RL-P-Ticket was €29 for up to five people. It's €27. The website for the RL-P-Ticket is also wrong, showing it as €26. That's last years price.

You can get all the prices for point-point tickets at the VRM website, www.vrm-info.de.

According to the Bahn website, St. Goar to Bacharach (or back, one way) is €3,10 pP.

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Thanks for setting me straight - I couldn't remember the price so I guessed conservatively. We paid €27 last year and I would have expected it to go up €1 or so. (also note that it will cost €2 more if you buy it at a ticket counter)

But we did successfully use our R-P Laender ticket on the St Goar-St Goarshausen ferry/faehre last year. Regular fare is €1-2 and the ride lasts about 5 minutes from St Goar or 10 minutes from St Goarshausen. It's pretty much all day back and forth across the river.