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German itinerary advice please

Our first time. Arriving 9Oct in Frankfurt leaving 18Oct from Frankfurt. My husband is not keen on traveling so want to make this the best trip. All travel will be by train. Thinking about Day 1 & 2 Bacharach, then not sure if should go to Baden for 2 nights then to Munich for 2 nights or straight to Munich and then do side trips from there. Thinking a Twin pass would be the best for day trips and Rhine KD cruise. Getting nervous.

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I spent a day in Baden-Baden last year and am not sure I would call it a "must see" (too big, too touristy). If you are going between the Mittel-Rhein and Munich you will pass through Wuerzburg and near Rothenburg ob der Tauber. These towns would make a good stopping point. Maybe throw in Bamberg, as well.

I'm not sure a railpass would be your best bet. Point-point pickets and Laender-Ticket would probably suffice, but you have to do the math. For the Rhein, the trip between Bacharach to St. Goar, preferrably down river, from Bacharach to St. Goar, would probably be enough.

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I agree with Lee and think that stops to Bacharach, Rothenburg, Wurzburg and Bamberg would be worth considering.

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Catherine, You should post this in the Germany section so you get more responses.

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We just moved from Belleville a few months ago... anyway, I agree with Lee. Baden Baden is a little expensive and very touristy. The Bacharach to St Goar would be a nice trip. We did a rhine trip a few years ago and enjoyed it emmensly. We stayed at the Castle Hotel auf Shönburg in Oberwesel. It's a little North of Bacharach and quite a unique experience.

http://www.burghotel-schoenburg.de/

Enjoy your trip!

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Thanks to all..I will post in the Germany section also, thank you Mary.

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Baden Baden adds travel time.

I would probably do as Lee suggests and add Salzburg as one of your sidetrips from Munich.

You should price short trips on local (regional) trains vs the price of a pass. You will probably save money even paying for the KD cruise yourself.

The first time through I had a pass. I see a pass as the better option only on longer trips. I keep my travel legs short now so the pass isn't the best option.

I'm sorry you have that extra pressure of trying to make the trip go smoothly. My wife rarely helps plan but enjoys travel and usually has a good attitude when the unexpected happens on the road. A good attitude turns a day of missed connections and bad meals into something to laugh about and recall fondly.

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Thank you Brad...you are so right about the attitude part. Thanks again.

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Just got back on an 11-day trip. Was in the Rhine on a Sunday. KD boat was 45 min. late in Bacharach. By the time we got the Marksburg castle, it was 1.5 hours late. Tram would take us up the castle, but won't take us down. We opted to go back by train to St.goarshausen since we stayed in St. Goar. Ticket machine only took coins. No one in the station spoke English or would give change for 5 Euros. Finally saw couple from Illinois who gave us change, and we shared our experiences. While on the train, an inspector was giving what seems to be a fine ticket to a passenger. Phew !!!

Then on to Rothenburg, Munich, Salzburg, Vienna, and finally Berlin. BTW, the reason Austria got included was because I was able to get a flight from Vienna to Berlin for 21 E (+60 E fee, wha?!)on Airberlin.com. Anyway, it was more expensive by train from Munich to Berlin, and took more time (8 vs. 1). But if you stop in Dresden or anywhere in between, you may save by getting Lander tickets for 28 E. But then Munich and Berlin are in different Landers (or states). Wurzburg and/or Nurnberg may be good options.

BTW, trains are more precise timewise vs. KD boat. So, be there as scheduled!

Also, Germans are so nice and helpful! Makes me wonder what happened in WWII.

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I day tripped to Baden-Baden from the Schwarzwald, so I didn't have to pay for a night there, but I don't know how anyone could stay at Schönburg, where a double runs from €160($235) to €250($370) per night and call Baden-Baden "a little expensive".