cheap individual transportation around Munich, Germany

I am not sure where Landsberg prison is, but I am fairly sure that if you get a Munich partner travel ticket (Munich XXL day ticket is €12,30), it will cover not only all public transport within Munich, but also travel to Dachau.

Landsberg prison is located in Landsberg am Lech, a small town approximately 34 miles west of Munich.

bahn.de shows a lot of connections between Munich and LaL, mostly with one change of trains, ~50 minutes duration, for 11.50 euro normal fare. A Bayern Ticket for 28 euro would cover you both for a round trip.

The map on the website of the prison (http://www.justizvollzug-bayern.de/JV/Anstalten/JVA_Landsberg) indicates that it's located near the station. It is still a prison btw.

Landsberg am Lech is a pretty little town. I would recommend spending the night there. The prison is near a station (Schule) in Landsberg, but not near the main station in Landsberg.

The train from Kaufering does stop at Landsberg Schule station a few minutes before it stops at Landsberg.

Anna is right. If you get a Munich XXL (for the inner two zones) Tageskarte (day ticket), Partner for 2-5 people, €12,30, Single for 1 person, €7,00, it will cover your round trip to Dachau Station plus the bus to the Memorial and back.

I really appreciate all of the information given. I did know about transportation to Dachau, but are there any trains that go from Dachau to Lansberg or from Lansberg to Dachau? That is the one "glitch" about our travel plans that I don't think has been answered. We only have one day to do both.

We have already booked our hotel in Munich (nonrefundable) and other events on other days, so we have no more days left to visit the locations or spend the night (though it sounds like it would have been a nice idea to stay in Lansberg). I will try to check into getting an XXL ticket -- especially if it covers a connection from Dachau to Lansberg. Thanks again to all who replied. If anyone knows about a connecting arrangement between the 2 places, that would be great.

Linda

There are no trains directly from Landsberg to Dachau or vice-versa. Regional trains from Kaufering, where you change from Landsberg to Munich, stop in Pasing on their way to the Hbf. The S-Bahn going to Dachau diverts from the main trunk line through Munich at Laim, one S-Bahn stop before Pasing. So, for instance, if coming into Munich from Landsberg, you would have to get off in Pasing, take any S-Bahn through Pasing headed for the Hbf one stop to Laim, then wait for a S2 coming through Laim (direction Petershausen) to Dachau. Either that, or go all the way into the Hbf, get off the train (it will end there), go to the S-Bahn station, and take the next S2 to Dachau. Without looking at the schedule, I couldn't tell you which would be the faster way (but I think it is Kaufering to Pasing to Laim to Dachau).

Here is a map of the S- and U-Bahn system in Muhich so you can see where Pasing and Laim are.

A Bayern-Ticket is all you need. It is valid on regional trains in Bavaria as well as all modes of transport (S-Bahn, U-Bahn, streetcars, and buses) in Munich metro (MVV).

If looking up schedules on the German Rail website, use Muenchen Hbf" to "KZ-Gedenkstaette" with a via of say 2:00 at "Landsberg(L) Schule. I see one set of connections leaving the Hbf at 9:19, stopping at Landsberg Schule for 2 hr, then going to Dachau arriving at Dachau Bahnhof at 13:31, taking bus 726 (13:41) from there to the Memorial at 13:48. That's too late to take the guided tour of the Memorial at 1 PM, but there are audio guides for a self guided tour.

You could start earlier on a weekend day, but the Bayern-Ticket is only valid after 9 AM workdays.

Another thing you could do, which would allow you to leave earlier, but still not take the guided tour, would be to use MVV 2 zone single trip ticket for €4,80 pP to get to the Memorial, which opens at 9:00. But get a Bayern-Ticket in Munich before you go to the Memorial to use the rest of the day. You could spend 4 hours at the Memorial, leave on the bus at 13:26, go via Laim and Pasing and get to Landsberg Schule at 15:09 and have the rest of the afternoon there.

My husband just told me there was one more thing he had hoped to do that day. I don't know if it is going to work or not, but he says he read that part of the "Kauffering camps" (#7) has a memorial and some of the buildings still standing. That was the other of the 3 things he wanted to do that day. (His father, now 85, helped liberate a number of concentration camps in the area during WWII and was also at Landsberg -- seeing Hitler's cell.) He was in reconnaissance (12th armored, 143rd division). I'm sorry to add another detail, but you have been so helpful. Thanks Lee, for researching times, connections, and prices! That really helps!

Check you spelling, that town north of Landsberg, where you change trains between Munich and Landsberg, is called Kaufering (one 'f'). Is it possibly the "Kauffering" you wanted to see?

I see from Wikipedia that the were Kaufering camps. Must be the ones. You'll change trains in Kaufering anyway on your way to Landsberg, which is on a spur line connecting to Kaufering.

You're right, it is Kaufering. I have learned that there are 11 Kaufering camps -- though not all located at Kaufering. The one he wants to see is located near Dornstetten in the burrough of Erpfting in the district of Landsberg am Lech. I can't seem to find any information about whether there are hours and/or days when it is open, but I read it is the only one of the Kaufering camps that still has original buildings.

Erpfting and Dornstetten are south of Landsberg (Kaufering is north). There are periodic buses (7 min) from the Landsberg(Lech) Bahnhof to Erpfting. I don't see any public transportation to Dornstetten, which is about 5 miles from Erpfting. You might find a taxi in Landsberg to take you to Dornstetten.

I looked at Dornstetten on Google maps. It is a very small village.

If you plan for Dornstetten (e.g. on bahn.de or google-maps) make sure you have the right one (on the Lech river in Bavaria), because there's another one (slightly bigger) in Baden-Württemberg...

And if you a requesting travel information to Dornstetten from the Bahn website, it only recognizes the the Dornstetten by Stuttgart.

Update:
I found it. "Unterdießen B17 Abzw. Dornstetten" It's the Dornstetten intersection of highway B17 in Unterdießen, and there is bus service from Landsberg Hauptplatz to there. Looks like that bus (#9824) also leaves from the Schulzentrum, which is just west of the prison.

If you are using a Bayern-Ticket that day, you can use it for the trains from Munich to Landsberg Schule and the prison, then for the train (about 1 min) from Schule to the main station. From the main station, there is a bus (about 2 min) to the Hauptplatz. That is a Landsberg city bus, not covered by the Bayern-Ticket. It was €1,- when I took it in 2007. The next morning, I walked back to the station from Hauptplatz, but by that time I had seen the route. Bus 9824, from Hauptplatz to Dornstetten will be covered by the Bayern-Ticket.

Linda, have you found the website for the Kaufering Camps, www.kaufering.com. The closest camp to Dornstetten, Kaufering VII, was actually near Erpfing, in fact closer to Landsberg than to Erpfing, just off of Erpfingerstr. coming out of Landsberg. Dornstetten is way south of there. The website does say it is the only one with buildings remaining.

So, assuming that is the correct camp, forget everything I have told you about buses to Dornstetten. I'm sure you will take a bus to Erpfing, probably the bus I mentioned earlier. I think it might still have the same number, 9824.

Thanks. That helps.

The bus you want to take is indeed bus 9824, to Schongau. It leaves from bus stop 6 next to the tracks in Landsberg station. If you get off at the Dittel (really) stop, it's about a ¼ mi walk along the highway to the turnoff (south) to the camp. I don't know if the driver would let you off opposite the road. Then it's about another ¼ mile down that road to the site. It looks to me like the site is just there in the meadow, no opening times.

BTW, that bus only runs Mo - Fr, not 13. Mai, 24. Mai to 4. Jun 2010, 2. Aug to 13. Sep 2010, 1. to 5. Nov 2010. Looks like June 16 is a go.

Here is the complete schedule for bus 9824. Looks like it runs hourly. Note that columns headed by 'S' are only on school days, so probably not during summer vacation. The times for the train to/from Kaufering are also shown on the schedule.