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Carry-On Not Included?

We are signed up for an RS Best of Eastern Europe Tour next June (flying from O'Hare to Prague, and then Venice to O'Hare) and our dates have just opened up for the airlines so I have started looking, though I'm not planning on purchasing right away unless I find the perfect flights. Something I haven't seen before and would like clarification on is:

carry on: not included
1st checked bag: so much for 50 lbs.
2nd checked bag: so much more again for an additional 50

Here's my question. We only fly with a carry on. What exactly do they mean by it not being included? Do they actually mean we aren't allowed a carry on or am I taking a different meaning from this then they intend? It also looks like we will have to pay if we want a seat choice, but I'm guessing the check mark by the personal item means we get to have that. Though cancellations and changes are not allowed:( Welcome to during and hopefully by then mostly post-covid flying. Yikes! Thanks all!


Posted by
21724 posts

You need to id the airline since every airline has it own policy regarding carry on. And the type of ticket you are buying. Some of the sub economy tickets, United for example, does not permit a carry on bag beyond a personal item in the super economy ticket class.

Posted by
1077 posts

Sure. I believe it was Lufthansa operated by Air Italia I think?

Didn't know that about United.

Posted by
4697 posts

Not included means you don’t get a carry on. What you are describing sounds like United’s ”Basic Economy” rather than their standard ”Economy”.

You need to check the class descriptions for the airline. For example, United has ”Economy” which gets you a seat selection, checked bag, change with a fee, etc. United also has ”Basic Economy” which is cheaper and you don’t get any of those things. There are even more variations and different airlines use different terminology.

United Economy

United Basic Economy

Posted by
5262 posts

Here's what Lufthansa's website says will be free, depending on class of ticket. You can click through to other information if I've misunderstood your question.

Posted by
185 posts

Usually basic economy doesn’t include a carry on, but you can purchase it for extra. However, for transatlantic flights, I have not come across an airline that doesn’t include the carry on even for basic economy (as basic economy is all I fly). If it is a flight within Europe, the carry on bag is probably an extra fee.

Posted by
14917 posts

Some airline sites have separate links to cabin baggage and checked baggage. Be sure to look at both.

Posted by
1772 posts

I believe it was Lufthansa operated by Air Italia I think?

Alitalia is not a member of the StarAlliance network that Lufthansa belongs to,
and Air Italy has ceased operations in 2020. LH is allowing
one carry-on up to 8 kg in "Econonmy Light".

Posted by
2234 posts

This does sound like the United Basic Economy fare, which is essentially click bait for the unwary since it doesn't include much of anything. Once booked you'll then be nickle and dimed for a variety of "upgrades" ... all of which you probably assumed would be included in the original price, including things like seat selection, baggage fees (including carry-ons, etc.) .
It's one of those cases when you're probably better off just springing for the upgraded fare from the get-go (in this case full-price economy) if it includes most of the things you'd otherwise be paying ala carte for - will probably be cheaper in the long run.

Posted by
3662 posts

In case anyone is wondering how this in enforced, ALL larger carry-ons require a tag for admission onto the jetway. You have to get it from the gate agent before boarding.

Posted by
1077 posts

Thanks again all. I didn't actually click on a particular fare, just a particular flight, so I'm not sure why that fare showed up for me. Glad I am forwarded.

Posted by
11256 posts

Most people are seeking the cheapest fare so that is what usually shows up when you do a flight search without choosing your class of service.

Remember, even when paying for a carry on you have to stay within the size AND weight limits.