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Avignon TGV to Villefranche-Sur-Mer

Hello all,
Question revolves around the situation that RailEurope states that the trip can only be with an Economy fare as a choice; with arriving and connecting to the Ter train in the Nice Ville station.

However, If I do the trip in two parts, the 1st class option is available for Avignon TGV to Nice Ville station. However, the connecting Ter train leaves from the Nice Requier station. Very confusing as both trains in both situations have the same train numbers.

Anybody have any insight as to what I should do?

Thanks,
Richard

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The city of Nice has 3 stations, one nearby the airport, one near the former and new bus station, and a main one, Nice Ville.

Unless you are a regular visitor to Nice it is unlikely you will need either Nice Riquier or Nice St Augustine. Focus on Nice Ville. All trains, fast and slow, stop there. It is well linked to the Tram, and buses leave from there to the airport.

TGV trains from Paris and via Avignon TGV station head towards the sea and slow down as they wind through the seaside mountains, so the "Train of Great Speed" doesn't go all that fast between Avignon and Nice.

At Nice you change to the double decker regional PACA TER train which stops all stations from Cannes to Ventimiglia, Italy. Villefranche sur Mer is about 5 or 10 minutes from Nice Ville depending on if the train skips Riquier. Some trains do skip a few stations, and a few of the relief trains are made up of seriously ancient single decker carriages borrowed from Marseilles.

But most are the modern, airconditioned double deckers. Between Cannes and the Italian border, sitting upstairs on the right-hand side is very rewarding (as is sitting on the left on the return) because the line is mostly right along the sea - between tunnels - and the views are spectacular.

When the local train approaches your station, do not dawdle. The stations are often not announced so you need to know the order of the stations and should read the signs on the platforms as the train stops. You need to work the doors because they won't open unless you do. The train won't wait in the station very long, sometimes under a minute.

I find it surprising that a TGV would have the same number as a PACA TER. It is irrelevant though because the TERs are frequent. Don't forget to validate.

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NIgel,

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I must not have explained myself very well. It is the Ter train that has the same number so it must go to or come from the Nice Ville station. Of the two ways to do the trip, only the complete start to end shows the Nice Ville station transfer. Taking each leg at a time, only shows the Nice Riquier station to leave from. And the full trip does not show an option to choose 1st class on the Avignon to Villefranche 1st leg to Nice Ville. I think that the Ter train goes to Nice Riquier 1st and then on to Villefranche; I need to watch the stops...

I have found a different way other than RailEurope to get what I wish.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Richard

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I think that the Ter train goes to Nice Riquier 1st and then on to Villefranche

You are right.

By the way, when I refer to PACA TER that is the common combination of abbreviations for "TER Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur".

The stations on the TER route are (in reverse order)

Ventimiglia, Italy

Menton-Garavan

Menton

Carnoles

Roquebrune-Cap Martin

Monaco - Monte-Carlo

Cap-d’Ail

Èze

Beaulieu-sur-Mer

Villefranche-sur-Mer

Nice Riquier

Nice Ville

Nice St-Augustin

St-Laurent-du-Var

Cros-de-Cagnes

Cagnes-sur-Mer

Villeneuve-Loubet Plage

Biot

Antibes

Juan-les-Pins

Golfe-Juan—Vallauris

Cannes

Cannes—La Bocca

I hope that helps....

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Thank you Nigel; very informative. I now know what to do.

Next, i have to figure out how to return the rental car to Avignon TGV.

Thanks for all your help. The planning stages are almost complete!.

Richard