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Air Canada Flight Cancellation Compensation

Just want to report a really frustrating experience while communicating with Air Canada regarding flight cancellation compensation. Details of the trip delays and cancellation can be found at the end of this message.

The point I would like to highlight is that, in order to file an issue/complaint with Air Canada, we have to go through the form filling on the web, with customer and flight details, including Aeroplan number, address, etc. And for each form filed, the response time is set to be 30 days (and more!!). We filed the complaint as soon as we finished our trip on 21 Sep 2017, and it's now Feb 2018, and we are still waiting for their response to our response on 27 Nov 2017.

For the first filing, it may make sense to go through a general web form. Yet for subsequent correspondence, it would be more efficient to have an email address that we can write to. I think this way of communication is to allow Air Canada to wear their passenger off, so they don't have the energy of enthusiasm to follow up.

Trip Delay/Cancellation Details:

We were a group of four who travelled from Vancouver to Barcelona via Montreal for an Oceania Cruise on 21 Aug 2017. Yet in Montreal, flight AC1912 was at first delayed for 2 hours. After we boarded the plane, there was a further delay before we went for the run way. And then mid way on the run way, we had to turn back as there was still problems with 3 lavatories. We waited in the plane until 1:00 am the next day, before we were told that we needed to deplane.

Although hotel and taxi coupons were provided, we had to line up in the airport for the registration/coupons, and eventually reached the hotel almost 5:00 am in the morning! By the time we settled down after taking showers, it was 6 am. We had only 4 hours of sleep and had a quick breakfast. We then checked out the hotel at noon and headed back to the airport for the new flight assigned (AC 1990) to depart at 5 pm 22 Aug 17. So a delay of more than 20 hours! We were late for our ship in Barcelona. A bus was arranged to take us to the next port of call Palamos.

Flight delay might be a common incidence for an airline. But to us, it meant so much more:

  1. We were late for the Cruise, and lost (a) 2 days of sightseeing, ie. Barcelona and Palamos, (b) 1 day of enjoyment (cuisine, facilities and services) on the Veranda stateroom of the Oceania Cruise Ship, our dream cruise vacation.

  2. We were anxious and exhausted through out the process, and did not sleep well at all for more than 48 hours.
    As a result, we were extremely tired during the first few days of trip. In fact, we had to sleep right after our dinner for the first few days, and my gastric acid reflux situation was so bad that I had a sore throat even now when back home.

  3. We called the customer hot line during the process of deplaning and rescheduling, which was not helpful at all. Fortunately Laurenz, the manager at Montreal Airport was helpful and helped us get the bus to Palamos arranged.

  4. We were given the information, saying that, as compensation, we would be given a discount code for our next flights. Yet upon reading the fine print, the discount would be on regular price, which when compared with what we could get from a travel agent with discount, it was even more expensive. So such offer was meaningless.

Lastly, at the end of our cruise, when we flew back from Athens to Montreal via AC 1903 on 1Sep2017, there was also a flight delay because too much fuel had been loaded to the plane (!). The pilot managed to make up some loss time. Yet we arrived at the airport around 4:10 pm, while the boarding time for our connecting flight was 4:25 pm. We had to rush through the custom to get to the gate -- not a very good ending of the trip either!

Posted by
23626 posts

Is there a question there? Just demonstrates what many of us constantly recommendation - no tight connections because things happen. We have done many cruises and always arrive three days to a week early. It paid off three years ago when two international flights in a row were cancelled for mechanical problems. I know the frustration but there is little you can do about it. Travel enough and you will have a problem.

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4 posts

Frank,
The flight was arranged by Oceania. I thought they would know more.
Also, the problem I have is with the reporting procedure air Canada has. Takes several months for a few exchanges. And Long response time, more than 2 months.

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23626 posts

You cannot blame Oceanic. They just book the flight. So we seldom take the cruise ship's flights for the same reason. It may cost a little more but it reduces the stress. When our first flight was cancelled the earliest they could find a seat was five days later, so we luckily caught a one way ticket on another airline for the next day. But then that flight was cancelled the next day but they took care of us and got us on another flight a day later. We keep the return leg on the first flight but it took over six months to get a refund for the out bound leg we missed. Everyone was polite but slow. We didn't get any extra compensation other than some meal vouchers.

These things happen. Lat year we were traveling with another couple that was leaving Paris on a very early flight the day before us. Imagine the surprise when we saw then at breakfast. Just as they put their luggage in the hallway, his cell rang and United cancelled their return flight to the US. So they got an extra day in Paris.

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32351 posts

"The flight was arranged by Oceania. I thought they would know more."

Even if a flight is arranged by a cruise or tour firm, I've generally found that passengers can arrange to leave a few days early. I used that method for a tour last September. My travel agent made all the arrangements and everything worked perfectly.

You may find these websites helpful....

This is quite detailed, but it explains what the airline's obligations are.....

Good luck!

Posted by
228 posts

I really dislike - and mistrust - 'online forms', especially for disputes. Doing it that way basically hands all the correspondence to the vendor and gives the customer no record. Some such sites are starting to provide copies to email addresses, which is good, but by no means all. Sure, you can copy/paste so that you have 'offline copies', but nothing beats the originals along with names, dates, times.

Like the OP, I prefer to correspond by email because this builds a paper trail that might come in useful if the complaint is not dealt with adequately and/or the customer has to escalate the complaint through a lawyer, when copies of all correspondence would be very important.

Posted by
5541 posts

It's a shame you weren't flying on an EU airline, you'd be entitled to €600 per person as compensation.

I'm with you on the frustration point. I have two claims currently going through with British Airways, one which they've refused and which I've escalated with a claims firm and another which should be a lot easier. The method used by BA and which they will only use when corresponding is via their website. Consequently there is no record of your responses only their responses that are e-mailed to you. I've since learned to copy and paste my responses into a Word document for future reference.

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7209 posts

We had a terrible return trip via AirFrance (their mechanical fault) that caused us to miss our connection and spend a night in Detroit. Filled out their online web form and within 3 weeks ALL of us had checks from Airfrance/Delta for $700+ which was really great because the purchase price of those tickets was only $400!

If you're flying domestically in the USA - you're screwed. EU rules are much better at protecting flyers.

Posted by
8880 posts

What compensation do you think you are due? They met their duty of care requirements with hotel and food vouchers. I doubt they have any further legal obligations regarding this flight. They may provide some sort of compensation as a good will gesture, but that is their choice.

Travel insurance would be your best bet here. Did you have a policy in effect that you purchased independently, through cruise line, or associated with the credit card you used to purchase the trip?
Those are the avenues that should be followed up on.

I am quite sorry for your situation and how your trip went. This does show, once again, the need for trip insurance.

Posted by
4088 posts

I did once receive compensation from Air Canada for a one-day delay, but the offer was somewhat deceptive. The passengers were promised a 25 per cent discount on a subsequent flight. When I tried to use it, I found the discount only applied to what Air Canada considers its own expenses -- not such further expenditures as airport landing fees, government surcharges, etc. What that added up to was a discount on less than half the amount of the fare I had to pay. All those items in the breakdown are fundamental costs of doing business, just like buying fuel and paying wages. Air Canada pretends otherwise. A pretty smarmy dodge, in my opinion.

Posted by
3439 posts

What a disappointing way to start a dream vacation.

Did Oceania pay for the bus from Barcelona to Palamos? I'm wondering if you were better off booking your flights through the cruise line than if you had made your own flight arrangements.

More questions:

What compensation do you want from the airline?

Did Oceania offer you any sort of courtesy discount or upgrades for missing the first night of your cruise?

Posted by
17428 posts

“It meant so much more.” Unfortunately the airline is not responsible for consequential damages resulting from a flight delay. Maybe check your trip insurance?

Posted by
4 posts

Thank you all for offering your advice and sympathy.

Oceania did not do anything. In fact I didn't expect any, but any small gesture like offering a bottle of wine, etc, would be nice. At least that would make us feel that they understood our situation and feeling.

They gave us the impression that better cut any tie with this incidence, to avoid any responsibilities.

As for air Canada, they did offering the 25% discount. I shared the same understanding that it's of no particular use at all. So I was trying to see if they could offer us some air mileage. But they didn't response.

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Thank you all for offering your advice and sympathy.

Oceania did not do anything. In fact I didn't expect any, but any small gesture like offering a bottle of wine, etc, would be nice. At least that would make us feel that they understood our situation and feeling.

They gave us the impression that better cut any tie with this incidence, to avoid any responsibilities.

As for air Canada, they did offering the 25% discount. I shared the same understanding that it's of no particular use at all. So I was trying to see if they could offer us some air mileage. But they didn't response.

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3439 posts

I've been researching a possible European ocean cruise. Oceania's failure to make even a small goodwill gesture is something I will definitely take into consideration when I pick a cruise line.

Posted by
2734 posts

This was a terrible start to your trip. But, there will be other trips in your future so good points have been made here. First off, leave earlier next time. We’ve experienced 24 hour delays as well-they happen. Secondly, buy comprehensive travel insurance. The money you recover for the delay won’t make up for the stress and inconvenience, but it helps. My read is that both Air Canada and Oceania did what they are obligated to do. The airline can’t prevent all mechanical delays. But they did house you and get you on the next available flight. The cruise line certainly can’t prevent such a delay. Should the cruise line give you a “good will” token? Probably half of those who experienced what you did might throw the bottle of wine at the steward who delivers it! Have you written to the cruise line and asked for some compensation for the time you missed? Can’t hurt. But, having insurance would have helped there as well. As for the method of submitting a complaint to Air Canada-welcome to the new century of customer service. Many vendors of all sorts of goods and service are moving to the web.