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A couple of Lufthansa questions plus one about flying for 9 hours straight

Hi there -

I've never been to Europe and I'm soooo excited to finally be going! Am going with a somewhat large group and we're taking Lufthansa nonstop from Seattle to Frankfurt.

  1. How strict are they about carryon dimensions? Their website says the overhead suitcase can be max equivalent to 21.7 x 16 x 9" (55x40x23 cm) and under-seat personal item like purse or laptop bag can be no larger than 12x16x3.9" so it definitely sounds like no small backpacks or small duffle bags etc. even if they do fit under the seat (if they're strict about their dimension rules). That's super inconvenient.

My Briggs & Riley overhead domestic sized overhead suitcase is 22x14x9" (the latter being expandable up to 11.5" which it sounds like I wouldn't get away with doing). I REALLY like that brand for its true lifetime warranty including on damage (and how 11.5" of densely piled-high clothes squash permanently down to 9" - except that the bag becomes quite heavy then when anyone's paying attention!), but I"m guessing just too tall? Their 21" carry-on suitcase it's the exact same dimensions only 1" shorter (no wider which seems ridiculous since they'll allow 2" wider) however it looks like they'll soon be releasing their latest update which is 21" tall but 15" wide instead of 14". I thought "oh good I'll just get that and sell my domestic one" as it's in good shape and I'll use it for both however I then saw that domestic won't accept wider than 14"!! :-p At any rate I'd rather not have to worry about a new bag if I can help it!

  1. I may bring along a water bottle with ice only and get water on the plane. In the states they don't care what bottle size as long as it's either empty or with only ice in it when entering the plane. Does this airline care about water bottle size and are they cool with ice in there and no liquid or do I need to just bring it on empty?

  2. Any other tips or suggestions for flying with this airline or even just for flying 9 hours nonstop? Unfortunately because we're traveling as a group and will have a section of the plane just for us, I can't guarantee I'll get a window or aisle seat. That will completely ruin any and all chances of comfort egads... I understand they give out blankets even in coach. We arrive at something like 4:15 a.m. "my time." I rarely get a wink of sleep on planes for reasons I can't fathom other than I think just because - beyond discomfort - I know how miserable I'll be if I don't, and that awareness keeps me from being able to - like some stupid form of anxiety I guess! I have a few neck support pillows to choose from so at least I have that down. I have noise-reduction or noise-cancelling (?) headphones though they don't reduce the noise a whole lot. Feel free to suggest good ones that fold up for storage. I think the issue is mine are just a bit too loose. Are the foot rests (like little travel ottomans) worth getting to help with back and leg pain?

Thanks so much!

Posted by
1583 posts

The airline will not care whether your water bottle is filled or not. It will care whether your bag fits in the sizer. If the bag sizer says your bag is too big. Your bag is too big. And do pay attention to weight. Lufthansa’s weight limit for cabin bags is 17.6 lbs. Finally, do not fill your water bottle in the airplane loo. The airlines don’t properly clean the water tanks. Use the bottled water the flight attendants have.

Posted by
20164 posts

Regarding carry-ons, I don't think a half inch here or there would
make much difference.

Unless they put it in the sizer and it doesn't fit. Then it gets gate checked, and all those in line behind you get agitated because you held up the line.

The last few Lufthansa flights I have been on have checked, and some of them have built-in scales.

Posted by
16269 posts

Lufthansa is strict.

Not only is their size maximum 55 x 40 x 23 cm but their weight maximum is 9 kg (17.6 lbs.)

I think you'll be surprised how heavy that Briggs & Riley bag is. (Probably in the neighborhood of 9 lbs.) That doesn't leave a lot of weight for your stuff.

The ailrine doesn't care about your water bottle. TSA does. Make sure it is completely empty when going through airport security. You can fill it afterwards. Most airports have bottle filling stations.

There are a lot of videos on Youtube with tips on "surviving" a long haul flight.

Posted by
3480 posts

Lufthansa is strict about carryon weight, especially leaving Europe.
I have had to have my carryon case checked as it was slightly over their requirements.
Maybe you could borrow a lighter weight carryon case from someone?
Briggs and Riley bags are quite heavy when empty…I’m seeing yours weighs over 9 lbs.
That only leaves another 9 lbs or so before your carryon is at the maximum weight.
Of course, you can just check your case, or are you planning carryon for a reason?
It’s best to just adhere strictly to your airline’s baggage rules for a smoother trip.

Posted by
5507 posts

Enjoy that ice if it makes it through TSA. It will probably be the last place you see ice in drinks for a while. I, personally, also think it is a bit much to ask the flight attendant to fill up your water bottle directly. The attendants will constantly come through the cabin offering water and other beverages, so you won't be thirsty.

Posted by
14719 posts

"I understand they give out blankets even in coach. We arrive at something like 4:15 a.m. "my time." I rarely get a wink of sleep on planes for reasons I can't fathom other than I think just because - beyond discomfort - I know how miserable I'll be if I don't,"

  • Honestly, I prefer to wear layers that I can add or subtract instead of using the cabin blankets as I'm never sure if they've been washed lately. Think about bringing a larger scarf if you need to snuggle into something. I didn't see when you are flying but I usually bring a puffy vest so I can put that on if I get cold.

  • I also try not to think about what time it is at "home" (same time zone as you). Once I get settled on the plane after the dinner meal is served I set my watch to the time at my destination.

  • I had good luck using the TimeShifter app for jet lag on my last trip. It also, surprisingly, enabled me to sleep some. I put on an eye mask (which I never use, lol) right after dinner and just did calming breathing (in 5, out 7) with the thought that I was blocking out light and if I slept that was fine but didn't stress about it. I actually did sleep 5 or 6 hours which was the most I've ever slept.

  • I know many watch movies but I'm not interested in that....I did read my iPad Mini when I woke up on the flight. The eye mask also helped cut out on the flickering screens from other passengers' monitors.

  • Do weigh that Briggs and Riley!

  • If you decide to go with ice frozen in a water bottle, freeze it in a bottle you don't mind having to leave at security if it's melted. You can also buy bottled water at Sea-Tac.

Posted by
8963 posts

Do some research on jet lag. First timers (especially in a group) can get all worked up with excitement when the flight first starts out. Then crash and burn when you arrive with no rest. Your body will need time to adjust, but what you do during the flight makes a difference.

Posted by
17417 posts

SeaTac has filler stations for water bottles on every concourse. You can fill it from those after you go through security.

Posted by
3070 posts

RE sleeping on the plane: I take a couple Advil PM 1/2 hour before attempting to go to sleep. Not only does it help my achy back, it helps me sleep a few hours. If I can sleep a bit, I can work through jet lag. Last trip I couldn't sleep because I forgot the Advil PM and it took me two miserable days to get over jet lag.
I don't use the airplane blankets except to support my back. I carry a pashima in my personal item to use for a blanket.
Someone recently posted a tip that I'll use this trip: take a plastic bag like a produce or grocery bag to line the seat back pocket before putting anything in it. They can be really nasty. Wish I would have thought to do so previously.
Oh, and it's not a bad idea to wear a mask on the plane. Too many people in too close quarters. Why risk getting sick.

Posted by
7 posts

I had a very nice 14 hour flight on Lufthansa and would fly with them again. Great staff and tolerable food. I don't sleep well on airplanes either but I do relaxation/meditation that I swear helps with missing actual sleep and wear a sleeping mask.

Posted by
2298 posts

Similar to Horsewoofie, I've learned to take a Dramamine after dinner on the plane. It gives me a few hours of sleep and I don't feel groggy when I wake up. I also wear a sleep mask and use custom-molded earplugs. The latter may not do much more than noise-cancelling headphones but they do help, especially for crying babies or loud talkers nearby.

Posted by
3480 posts

Haven’t heard back from the OP……..are you there, Theresse?
Hope we have given you some good info.

Posted by
892 posts

I bring an empty 32oz camelbak with me and fill it after TSA but in the airport; I'll use airplane water if i HAVE to but i don't usually WANT to.