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7 Day Travelcard for London (TFL)

I've always done the daily caps on the Oyster card but now I'm wondering about the 7 day Travelcard as it may be cheaper for us.

  • I have an Oyster card already. Can I add use the 7 day Travelcard on
    my Oyster card or is the 7 day Travelcard a separate card entirely
    that would need to be purchased separately along with the 7 day
    Travelcard fare?

  • Do the 7 days begin on the first day I would use the Travelcard or do
    they begin on a specific day like Monday ending Sunday night?

  • I used this TFL website to get the fare for the 7 day card
    between Zones 1 and 3. Am I correct that the fare is £40 for an
    adult?

I wasn't sure whether to start this thread on the England forum or here. Hope I picked the right forum. Thanks.

Posted by
3176 posts

Thank you both. I didn't realize that with the £40 paper ticket, I can get other offers. As long as there are no other charges for a paper ticket and I can use that paper ticket on the same public transportation options as is available if the Travelcard were on my oyster card without any time restrictions, it sounds like the paper ticket is the better option.

Am I correct? Thanks!

Posted by
19504 posts

I believe you must buy that paper ticket at a rail station rather than at a tube station in order to qualify for the 2-for-1 deals. Someone else can probably point you to a website that explains.

Posted by
26423 posts

If you follow the link provided by Lola above, find the FAQ page which has descriptions of, and photos of, ticket media which is accepted by the 2 for 1 scheme, and ticket media which is not accepted. Lots of questions can be answered there.

Since it is a promotion sponsored by the train companies in order to boost train usage to attractions it is reasonable that they would want the person to either travel by train and/or use a ticket which is issued by a member company. That's why no media issued by TfL is accepted. If you get a rail issued 7 day season ticket or Travelcard you will need one passport sized photo.

You will see elsewhere that a 7 day Travelcard issued by TfL either paper or on Oyster does not require a photo - only those issued by a rail company. That is correct.

Posted by
3176 posts

The FAQ section was very helpful. It also told me the following:

Is My Ticket Valid For 2FOR1?

The following ticket types cannot be used for 2FOR1 offers:

Oyster Cards

TfL Issued Travelcards

So now I'm confused. Whether I put the Travelcard on my Oyster card or get a separate paper Travelcard from the TFL, either won't come with the 2 for 1 offers?

Posted by
4538 posts

You need to get a 7-day Travelcard from a National Rail station for it to qualify for the 2-For-1 offers. Not TfL.

Posted by
26423 posts

Yes, Continental, that is correct. Only rail issued tickets and only rail issued Travelcards are valid for that promotion. If you can get your Travelcard from a rail station it is a very worthwhile promotion if your your party is a couple or multiples of two. Most people want to go to some of the offered attractions on their trips.

Posted by
11275 posts

"If you wish to travel outside of the zones they cover its a bit more complicated, as ( I think) you will need to buy ticket extensions before you travel ?"

Yes. When I first went to London in 1985, you were allowed to go past the zone of your ticket and then pay an "excess fare" to get out of the station, without penalty (a similar system is still in place in Washington, DC). But now, if you travel to a zone further than your ticket, you are in violation and can get a fine (similar to how it works in Paris). So, you have to buy a ticket extension before you get on the Tube or train.

Posted by
3176 posts

Yes, Continental, that is correct. Only rail issued tickets and only
rail issued Travelcards are valid for that promotion.

This is good to know, thank you. So if I buy a 7 day Travelcard (zones 1-3) from the Ealing Broadway rail station for £40, I will get the unlimited travel between those zones plus the 2 for 1 deals?

Posted by
19504 posts

If I understand the 2-for-1 process correctly, you must buy your tickets (one full-price, one free) on-site. That appears to conflict with the advice to buy tickets in advance for a few very high-traffic sites. One of the few 2-for-1 sites that interests both me and the friend who will be traveling with me next year is the Churchill War Rooms, and that's a place where I think you really need to show up with tickets already in hand.

Posted by
26423 posts

So if I buy a 7 day Travelcard (zones 1-3) from the Ealing Broadway rail station for £40, I will get the unlimited travel between those zones plus the 2 for 1 deals?

That's right. As long as you buy it from the rail station and not the Underground station machines at the same place...

Posted by
26423 posts

and because it is a rail seven day Season ticket - by definition - take a passport sized photo to put on the mandatory free photo id that goes with a rail season ticket.

The number of the photo id will be put on the Travelcard.

Posted by
3176 posts

and because it is a rail seven day Season ticket - by definition -
take a passport sized photo to put on the mandatory free photo id that
goes with a rail season ticket.

The number of the photo id will be put on the Travelcard.

I didn't count on the needed photo.

Out of curiosity, if I bought the 7 day Travelcard paper ticket at a tube station, would I also need a photo? I am assuming I would not as I learned upthread from Lola & Emma that I can put the 7 day Travelcard on my Oyster and there is no photo on the Oyster.

Posted by
26423 posts

It really isn't that tough.

I'll try again.

There are two different products with the same name and different benefits.

TfL - Transport for London - the folks who run the Underground, the TfL Rail (the slower stopping train between Heathrow and Paddington, and another commuter train in the northeast of town), the buses and trams - issue a product available on an Oyster and available on a paper ticket with the Roundel symbol (the symbol of Transport for London, a circle with a horizontal bar across) in the corner. Travelcards with a Roundel on it and Travelcards on Oyster are valid on all Tubes, trams, virtually all buses and many trains within Zones 1-6. Travelcards on Oyster and Travelcards with a Roundel are not valid to obtain the 2 for 1 discounts on the Days Out promotion of the railways. TfL Travelcards with a Roundel or on an Oyster do not require any further ID and no photo is required. They are available in one day, one week, one month or one year lengths.

Railway companies (there are around 26 of them around the country) issue credit card sized tickets for riding trains. They can be from station to station or from a station to a London Zone(s), or simply for 4, 5 or 6 London Zones (one day), or for 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 Zones (longer duration). Within the names Zones on the railway Travelcard they have the exact same validity on transportation as a TfL Travelcard. Railway issued Travelcards are not available on Oyster, they are printed on either normal train ticket stock or on a special Travelcard ticket (depending on the facilities available where you get them) and are identified by the "Crows Feet" or "Double Arrow" logo. Train company Travelcards will not only have a Roundel. If you get one at certain dual stations the ticket may have both the Roundel and the Crows Feet. The Crows Feet logo identifies it as railway issued, and it must have that (see the details in the FAQ which I actually thought you understood a while back - and look at the pictures again) to be valid to give you 2 for 1 at the deals offered by the Days Out promotion. A one day rail company issued Travelcard with Crows Feet does not need any further ID nor a photo. On the railway any ticket with a validity length of 7 days or longer is considered a "Season Ticket" and all railway Season Tickets require a special card to accompany them with your name, your photo and a long number on it. The ID card is free - all you have to do is provide a passport sized photo which is a good likeness of you. It could be a print from your phone as long as it is the right size and easily recognisable as you. You bop up to the window and say to the chap or chapess behind the glass that you would like a 7 day Zones 1-3 and a photo ID, Please. And you hand him or her the photo. They ask your name and laminate the photo onto the card and ask for the money for the Travelcard. You can tap your phone or contactless card, or stick your card in and PIN, or swipe your card and sign or hand over money. You won't have to show your photo-ID except on trains, but you have to have it.

So - your choice.

If you don't want to have a card with your photo on it or you don't want the hassle of a couple of minutes at a window in a station, and you are willing to forgo the benefits of 2 people paying for 1 at some attractions, just put the Travelcard onto your Oyster.

Or find a photo (one each), use a ticket issued by a rail company, and enjoy the benefits.

Posted by
1725 posts

Right, Nigel, so we're to stay here and guard the prince unless anyone comes to get him, right?

Your explanation is fine except for the mistake of falling into the gender binary stereotype -- chap or chapess? What about all the transport service staff members who don't identify as either? Shame on you, sir / madam / guy. /s

Posted by
3176 posts

Thank you Nigel! I appreciate your taking the time to write out the specifics in detail. As for "chapess" -- why not? :-)