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3 country vs 4 country rail pass

Hi, I'm traveling throughout Europe and have decided on a 3 country rail pass. I would be using it for Germany, Italy, and France. However, my train from Munich to Milan will pass through Austria (or Switzerland?). Will I need to buy the 4 country rail pass then? What would be the penalty if I stuck with the 3? Thank you in advance for your help!

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You will need some kind of rail coverage for your passage through Austria. You could provide that coverage by adding Austria to your pass, or you could by a separate ticket for that train from Italy (Bennero) to Germany (Rosenheim, probably). Get it at the Reisezentrum in Munich Hbf.

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And, if caught, the penalty can be very severe including ejections from the train - when stopped, of course. But the bigger question is - Will the rail pass save money. With the supplement fees required for many trains and the discounts available for advance, it is often very difficult to make a rail pass pay off.

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Assuming you are traveling on the Eurocity (EC) train between Brennero and Rosenheim, the fare in 2nd class is €33,10. But since you are using a Eurail pass, you will probably go in 1st class; that fare is €54,50. Compare the extra fare with the extra cost for a fourth country. That train has optional seat reservations, with a pass and with tickets. There is no supplement unless you are using the night train. With sufficient advance purchase you can get an EC from Munich to Verona for €39/p online from the Bahn. The Trenitalia website shows the full 2nd class fare from Verona to Milan to be €20,50/p. With advance purchase from Trenitalia, you can get a Mini Fare from Verona to Milan for €9.

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Ali, using the pass in Italy will not save you money. If you can work around that (buying point-to-point tickets from the border cities in Italy in and out of Milan), I think you'd be fine with the 3-country pass.

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After recalculating, I've decided to go (again) with point to point tickets. I found great prices on raileurope.com and tgv-europe.com. However, ran into some problems with both sites... Booked two trains on raileurope (Milan to Monterosso and Florence to Rome) but after I booked, I received an error message saying one or more of my tickets could not be booked and that I would be contacted by a customer service rep within 2 business days. Has anyone had that problem? In addition, with the TGV site, I was unable to book any tix because I was not allowed the print at home option - only to deliver by mail. Also had that same delivery problem with raileurope and was charged an exorbitant $18 for shipping but still came out cheaper than using a railpass travel day. Thank you all for your help and advice!

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"I found great prices on raileurope.com " ? On RailEurope, the ticket price for IC665 direct from Milan to Monerosso is €31 2nd class, €41 1st. Trenitalia shows the tickets for the same train for €23 2nd class, €30,50 1st. Those would be the walk-up price at the station in Milan - no shipping. For advance purchase, Trenitalia shows "Mini fares" of €9 and €19, respectively.