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Paris: Sun. 5/11-Wed. 5/21: Overall, Travelers, Arrangements

  • After this overview, I’ll post each day separately so you can just read the parts you’re interested in. The reports are long because I did them mainly for me and future trips, but you might get something out of them.

Overall:
- Planning- All the planning and help I received here was invaluable, especially with all the train tickets and how to navigate the systems, and the time I spent on the Metro interactive map planning the best routes places was invaluable. We’ve been saving for this trip for about 5 years and this was really a trip of a lifetime with our kids, so the planning was so important.
- Meals- We didn’t need reservations anywhere (except at our special meals-Le P’tit Troquet and Altitude 95) even with a group of 6, but I made sure we arrived early; about 12:30/12:45pm for lunches, 7:30/7:45pm for dinners. I know there are many opinions on this one, but we budgeted almost half our budget for food and ate all lunches and dinners out (bakery goods for breakfast). We only had two quicker meals. We would do this again, as for us, a big part of the experience is the food and eating/talking to locals. The leisurely meals also gave us the down-time we needed in our pretty busy touring days. We ate at the outside tables almost every meal. I made the kids order their own meals and they enjoyed this and got very good at it. It was fun to see their adventurous choices- they tried foie gras (not a favorite) and seafood platters with snails and crustaceans (loved this). I wished I’d spent a little more time researching restaurants in areas outside the RSs recommendations (areas) that we ended up at; we made some great choices and a few bad ones.

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  • RSs- Timing was pretty accurate for the sites and the book was invaluable as always. The iPod tours didn’t work very well for our group. It got confusing to navigate when things were moved and we found even when we were on, with our larger group the tours spent too much time on individual paintings. I either used the printed tours to lead/inform the group of the highlights or I listened to the parts of the tours and told everyone the highlights and this worked better (I copied individual tours from the book so I didn’t have to carry the whole book each day).
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Travelers:
- Me/Mom- 49 and obsessive planner of trips; I won’t admit the number of pages on my spreadsheet of info. collected for this trip- it was all seamless to my group (I love those moments when they think something just “happened” but actually took a lot of planning, they’ll never know and that’s the way it should be) and I was VERY flexible with the plans. My first trip abroad was 5 years ago on a week alone in Paris (while husband was on business across the country) and as a former art teacher I loved every minute and used my RSs book exclusively.
- My family- Husband- 49, loves the fact that he doesn’t have to plan a thing. Daughter- 20, just finished a semester in France, Son- turned 18 there, Son- 12, plan was to eat nothing but baked goods and chocolate (and he achieved this to a point each day; skinny little guy).
- My Brother- 44, Bachelor, he’s the fun Uncle and asked to go with us, great fun to have along.
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Arrangements:
- Flights- We flew Continental from Pittsburgh to Newark, then on to Paris. Delays in Pittsburgh due to weather, but we had plenty of time for our next flight. Coming home we also had delays into Pittsburgh because of weather. Loved having the back of seat entertainment systems both ways. My daughter was on USAir in. Footnote; I get very sick on international flights, but was OK this time with Ambien and the Motion sickness patches used together; able to sleep some.
- Shuttle- I booked a private shuttle with Bluvan (208 euros round trip, with a separate stop at two terminals as my daughter came in on a different flight/terminal). Called when we had our luggage at 8:30am and was told they’d be there in 10 min. After several calls (and knowing my daughter had arrived and was also waiting at the other terminal) they finally arrived at 9:20am (50 min. later). I complained to our driver and he told me that we weren’t on his schedule that someone else was actually supposed to pick us up. He went to the other terminal and we found my daughter waiting there. He also made a long stop for gasoline on the way in to town. Had no problems on the way home, but we’d called the day before to confirm and remind them of the issues incoming. We left 4 hours early, 7:15am, as advised here (some said they missed planes with only 3 hours), but we had no traffic, so we actually arrived (Terminal 2A), before 8am, too early to check in for our 11:20 flight. We had to wait about 20 min. There were hardly any lines to check-in or through security, so we were through by 8:45 and had over 2.5 hours to wait…too much time, but I’m sure you never know what the airport will be like…oh well, I finally got time to write my postcards!
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  • Apartments- Our family booked an apartment through Vacation in Paris on rue de l’Universite (between Eiffel & Invalides). It was a little run-down, but we weren’t in the apartment except to sleep (one bedroom, 12 year old on a foam mattress on the bedroom floor and the living room had a daybed and a futon for the two older kids). Loved paying online with PayPal, having the keys before we left home and the apartment was ready for us when we arrived at 10:30am. My brother had a studio apartment through VRBO/Rental France on rue Amelie (just a few min. walk from us). It had a murphy bed (fine) and was recently renovated and had an internet connection (my brother used this each morning to check the weather). Our only complaints with this place was he had to bring cash (dollars or euros, so we had to get a newspaper to figure that days exchange rate) and arranging to obtain the apartment became problematic. MORE...
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We followed the small amount of instructions (basically call when you arrive). We tried leaving messages at several numbers and finally reached the owner. When we arrived at our apartment we tried calling again as arranged and couldn’t reach him several times. Tried going to the apartment and then finally reached his wife (out of the country) and she texted him and he called back (apparently he was running the vacuum and didn’t hear the calls).

  • Packing- We took tons of luggage (checked 8 med/lg. bags for our group of 6), and I don’t regret doing it. It didn’t create any problems for us. Yes, I can travel light when I have to, but I didn’t have to. We got carts at the airports and since we only stayed at the apartments the whole time it worked out fine. We wore pants twice, and had to take lots of layers, which was needed as the temps went from hot-80 degrees at the beginning of the week to low 60 degrees high at the end (and coats/raingear were used as well). We did no laundry; for what we were paying per hour for our family to be on this trip I refused to be spending it doing laundry, we used all our clothing except the 2 pair of shorts I brought for the boys for Disneyland- too cold. There were a few things we didn’t use: Took a few boxes of cereals, but the bakery trip each morning sufficed. Took lots of medicines we didn’t need, luckily, but I’d take them again just in case (my youngest and I have asthma so we also had medical machines). He had a fever one day, but after a nap was fine. Didn’t use the wine bottle opener- never home. We all carried small daypacks with our own water bottles, snacks, cameras, etc. and only had to check these at a few museums (Carnavalet and the Maritime). END OVERVIEW
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Wow, Nancy, you are the super planner for sure.
I am sorry, but how on earth did you need 8 suitcases for 6 people, I mean, how long was your trip?? I understand you were happy with that choice,and since you didn't actually have to travel around to other cities it didn't hurt to have the extra luggage, but what still wow!
I agree with the eating out thing, I prefer eating out most meals myself, I do not go on vacation to cook or do dishes, so I just get a hotel room with a mini fridge for snacks and I 'm happy.
Well I am going to read more about your trip.. you certainly are quite the writer!! I really enjoy reading trip reports , thanks.

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I expected some questions about the luggage...I know, I know, "Travel Light". I made the concious decision not to worry about it, because I didn't have to since we stayed at one home base, and we were gone 10 days. There's enough other things to worry about on a big trip, that it was nice not to have to limit clothing too much. We each had a suitcase of our own and we did wear pants twice, took a packed coat (hot when we arrived, but needed them later), 2 pair shoes (I think my daughter had 4), and layers for the top. The extra 2 suitcases; my brother took two smaller ones so he had an extra, and the other was our medical equipment and medicines/toiletries. When my daughter spent her semester abroad in France, she ended up in the hospital there for a week. She got great care, but they sent her Pepto Bismol bottle to the lab as they didn't know what it was (I made her take it with her to the hospital to show them what she'd taken). I didn't want to worry about medicines either.

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Ah !!!! the difference ...... and we did wear pants twice ...... I normally wear the same pants for the whole trip. To each his own.

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Frank, those were my thoughts as well ;-)

But don't take it the wrong way, Nancy. If there ever was a place where you shouldn't have to justify the luxury of taking as many clothes as you wish it's Paris!!!! and you certainly enjoyed every minute of it.

Have to say I always travel to and from Europe with 2 24" suitcases. However, only half a suitcase is actually filled with clothing. The rest are books, gifts, chocolate, washing detergent (I bring Persil back home) and such. Every year I try to tell myself I don't need to do it but then my dad gives my a big fry pan to take home ... And yes, I've travelled by train with those 2 suitcases from Frankfurt to my home town negotiating 3 train stations with stairs (the big stations have elevators, not the small ones). And found out that there are actually some very nice and friendly teens in Germany still who only took a look at me and offered to carry my luggage up the stairs. To this day one of my favourite memories ;-) Nevertheless, I did it only because I was travelling by myself. I would have never burdened myself like that if I had been travelling with my kids.

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Nancy,
Thanks for taking the time to write your trip overview. I read this site just for that. It sounds like your trip was wonderful. I will always remember fondley the first trip we took our kids to Europe for three weeks. It was a blast! It makes for great memories. Thanks again.

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Nancy, thanks for the review. I have copied and pasted some of your helpful suggestions into my own compendium of travel ideas, and I won't tell you how many pages mine is either. :-) I dearly love to plan our travels, as well, and my hubby is also perfectly content to let me do so. Thus far, our travels have been quite successful, if I may say so. Our first trip to Europe 2 summers ago, with all our children, was chock full of memories to last a lifetime. This time, and within 2 weeks, golly, my husband and I are going to London, Paris, Normandy for 4 nights, and final 3 days of our trip will be in Belgium. It approaches quickly, and I need to begin to pack! Thanks again for taking the time to write.

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Frank- he-he...it was everything I could do to get my teens to wear anything twice! Wait until my boys head to college and have to do their own laundry...I'm sure they'll be wearing the jeans a week at least (My daughter already knows that routine)! Thanks again all and happy planning!