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Day Trips from Mannheim and Itinery help

I will be in Germany from 9/25 through 10/5 (flying back 10/6), so about 10 days. I will be traveling/staying with a friend who lives outside of Mannheim. I did visit last September and we visited Heidelburg, Rudesheim, Paris, London, Munich, Dinkelsbuhl, Phreimd, and Prauge. Since this trip will be shorter, we are not planning on leaving Germany. We want to go to Berlin for a few days. I would like to go back and explore around the Rhine or the Mosel and would like to visit the cathedral in Cologne. We would also like to go to the Black Forest and perhaps a thermal bath in Baden Baden. My friend has a car, so driving is not an issue. However, if we go to Berlin, we would take the train. We are interested in wine and live music and while I want to do enough planning to not be "stuck" we do want to have the availability to go with what sounds good!

So, a couple of questions:

Any suggestions for day trips from Mannheim?

Is it feasible to do Cologne as a day trip (it looks like it is about 3 hours each way, so probably not unless there really is not enough to see in Cologne). If we cannot do Cologne as a day trip would we want to stay there or would it be better to stay along the Rhine and day trip from there?
Are there better places to visit than Cologne that are just a day trip from Mannheim?
Knowing that the train to Berlin is 5 hours, would 3 nights be enough time there for a good overview? Or should we plan on 4?
I have heard that Baden Baden isn't the best place to stay in the Black Forest. If we are staying for just one night, what would be good? I have read that Frieburg is better for student nightlife, but we are in our mid thirties, so we are not really looking for college hangouts.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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Frankfurt? Mainz?, Worms? Würzburg? Marburg? Kronberg? Büdigen? Bad Homburg? Seligenstadt?

For a cool swim experience, go to Mirimar in Weinheim.

There are thermal bath places eveywhere, with spas, etc.

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"Is it feasible to do Cologne as a day trip". Yes. It takes about two hours to drive from Mannheim.

Personally, for exploring the Black Forest, I would prefer Tubingen or Freiburg as a base over Baden-Baden any day.

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My favorite town in the Black Forest is Bad Herrenalb. After that, Freudenstadt (Spa), Alpirsbach, Calw, Bad Wildbad. I wasn't at all impressed with Baden-Baden, but I guess you can avoid the mixed nude parts of the spa better than in most German spa towns that I mentioned.

After that, just south of Stuttgart there is Herrenberg, the university town of Tübingen, and Hechingen with it's Hohenzollern castle.

The Schwarzwaldbahn, a rail line from Hausach to Triberg and on to Donaueschingen is very scenic.

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Is it Good to go to towns named Bad? (okay, I admit it's late and I've had the 2nd glass of wine)

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"Is it Good to go to towns named Bad? (okay, I admit it's late and I've had the 2nd glass of wine)"

I remember seeing a map of US army bases in Germany when I was a kid. I was particularly struck by the name "Bad Kreuznach". Wow, something awful must have happened there to get a name like that!

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"Hechingen with it's Hohenzollern castle." One more comment. Why isn't this castle better known among US tourists? Although I've never been there, looking at the video "Images of Germany: Along the Rhine", that has to be one of the most stunning combinations of architecture and landscape in the world.

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The "Bad" places are the bath towns that Jo suggested. So while most Americans would stay away from a town called Bad Something, you should actually go there.

Schloss Schwetzingen is a nice place to go to. Pretty palace, beautiful gardens, cute town.

You might be there for the start of wine season (Jo would know more about that). If so, there's a lot of little towns around Mannheim that have wine festivals, you can even take a turn at picking grapes at a vineyard. Don't miss out on getting some Neuwein and Zwiebelkuchen at any cafe that advertises it.

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Hohenzollernburg is really impressive when you see it from outside. It just sits up on top of this cone shaped mountain, dominating the surrounding area. It is one of two places in the world where I have looked down on an airplane in flight (the other being Loveland Pass in Colorado).

"Only one English tour a day". And only two buses from the train station to the castle, timed to meet trains from Stuttgart at 11:25 and 13:25. It's a little hard to get to, but I suspect that's more because of number of visitor rather than vice versa.

"It's not that impressive on the inside". Actually, it's not some medieval castle, although castles have occupied that hill intermittently for 1000 years. It's just a big apartment. The current castle was built in the mid-1800s as a residence for Wilhelm, who eventually became Kaiser Wilhelm I.

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Thank you for all of the great responses! I appreciate the additional ideas - especially the places that aren't in the guidebooks. I am looking forward to my additional research. I am certainly going to plan a spa day and find a festival to go to; last year we stumbled upon a festival in Ladenburg and it was a nice treat!

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Koeln has got the great cathedral, but I wasn't impressed with much else there. I think two hours is enough,

I really don't agree with that comment. With two hours you barely manage to see the cathedral from the inside and walk up the 500+ steps of tower. Definitely do not skip the tower climb!

There are a couple of great museums on either side of the cathedral: the Museum Ludwig (Modern Art incl. one of the world's largest collection of works by Picasso) and the Roman-Germanic Museum. Each of them will fill 2 hours easily.

And if you aren't into museum just walk around the Altstadt and sit down for a glass of Koelsch (the local beer),