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a little helpful insight needed please

flying to amsterdam-(base)...then rail to rheinland-castles, switzerland-alps, france-paris, benelux-all goodies, london-sights. then back to amsterdam by ferry. we have 14 days and was thinking global railpass but want cheaper local trains for the right parts, then highspeed over-night on the long hauls. there are 5 travelers

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First insight: your itinerary is VERY busy. You've got 6 countries there, a few thousand kilometers to travel - and just a fourtnight ... Even people who like whirlwind trips would probably suggest to think about which stops you REALLY want to make and cut down on some others.

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You need to plan your trip. Think circle so there is little to no backtracking.

Second, go to the Train Travel Planning website and see how long the journey's really are.

Next, be aware that many people complain of not being able to sleep on night trains due to the noise. So trying to do this often may be exhausting.

Finally, of your 14 days, does that include travel across the pond? If so, you will leave one day, and arrive the next thus losing a day.

My suggestion, on such a condensed itinerary would be first to cut out Switzerland and maybe even London.

Visiting Amsterdam, the rest of the benelux, Rhineland and Paris is a lot for 14 days in itself.

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Barry: Good advice in the posts above--you're trying to cover too much distance in the time you have. It's understandable that first timers (if you are) want to see a lot--but you really don't want to unknowingly turn what should be a wonderful trip into a death march to exhaustion.

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Getting to your question, a Global Pass covers 21 countries (and not the U.K.). You have only listed 4 countries Germany, Switzerland, France, and "Benelux" (considered one country on a Eurail pass), so why get a Global Pass? A ten day, four country, Saver Select Pass would be less than a 10 day Global Pass. Ten days should be more than enough; a Eurail pass won't cover local transportation if you base somewhere, and I hope you plan on doing that at least four days.

I agree with others that you are trying to see way to much. Plan on seeing a few things in depth rather than just one or two things in a lot of places. Are you doing this for you own enjoyment, or to impress others with a list of famous places you have been to (but didn't really see)?

Instead of starting with a list of places you want to say you have been to, start with the Netherlands, do some research, figure out what is there to see and how many days it will take (figure no more than two sight per day if they are close together, one if not). Then move on to Belgium, figuring travel time. How much time do you need to see things in Belgium? You might stay in Brussels for a couple of days, with a side trip to Bruges.

By the time you get to Luxembourg, half you trip will be over and you will be lucky to fit in the Rhein castles AND Paris.

I don't think you will need a rail pass at all for rail travel in Benelux and Germany. Distances are really short in Benelux and in Germany you won't go far enough to need express trains. Länder tickets are good for local travel in one state (NordRhein-Westfalen, Rheinland-Pfalz, etc) and cost about €30 for up to five people.

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responses considered, i checked the 10 day select saver verses 15 global pass and even if i dont use all 15 days global is still cheaper? what im looking for is:: somehow getting from amsterdam-brussels-luxembourg-zurich-geneve-basel-paris-brussels-london-ferry back to amsterdam. dont want to double back just kind of circle around. any suggestions? even if we stay in places for 1/2 days or 1-2 days im not sure yet. thanks