2 week Germany itinerary for fall - comments appreciated

My husband and I are starting to plan a trip to Germany for this fall. We've never been to Germany before and we plan to arrive Saturday, September 7th and depart Sunday, September 22nd. Our interests are historical and cultural sites, art and history museums, and exploring cities and cute towns. After scouring several guide books I've come up with a preliminary plan and would appreciate any comments on how reasonable it is. We prefer a trip that is somewhat fast in pace. Here's the plan so far: Saturday, 7th - Arrive Berlin in the morning on flight from Detroit Sunday, 8th - Berlin Monday, 9th - Berlin Tuesday, 10th - early departure from Berlin by train for Dresden (about 2.5 hrs), spend night in Dresden Wednesday, 11th - train to Nuremberg, spend night Thursday, 12th - Nuremberg, spend night Friday, 13th - early departure by train for Munich (< 2 hours), spend night in Munich Saturday, 14th - Munich Sunday, 15th - Munich Monday, 16th - Munich Tuesday, 17th - depart Munich early by car for Garmisch-Partenkirchen (about 1 hour), Zugspitze,on to Fussen to stay night Wednesday, 18th - Hohenschwangau, Neuschwanstein, overnight in Fussen Thursday,19th - depart for Rothenburg ob der Tauber, stay night Friday, 20th - Rothenburg ob der Tauber Saturday, 21st - depart Rothenburg early, stop in Wurzberg, arrive Frankfurt in evening, return car, stay at airport hotel
Sunday, 22nd - morning flight home While in Munich we'd like to do a day trip to Salzburg and also see Dachau. So overall does this look somewhat reasonable? Thanks!

Posted by Russ
Paradise
1760 posts

Mostly OK. I think you need another day for Berlin. And I would want to spend at least half a day in fabulous Bamberg when you are in the Nuremberg area or while in Rothenburg (you might finish up R'burg on 9/20 around noon or 1:00 and head to Bamberg.) You could find this extra time by avoiding the 2-night jaunt to Füssen and by doing a daytrip from Munich instead to King Ludwig's Herrenchiemsee palace, on an island in Chiemsee Lake 1 hour from Munich on the way to Salzburg: PALACE INFO VIEW OF LAKE AND HERRENCHIEMSEE

Posted by Caitlin
Medical Lake, WA, USA
45 posts

Definitely looks reasonable! I would say you need another day in Berlin. You could potentially spend only a half day in Dresden. Its great, and lots of history, but I didn't think it merited another night. If you are strapped for time in Munich, you could take a half-day of your Scheduled Berlin time and go to saschenhausen instead of Dachau. I thought they were pretty comprable. If you are into history, there is a lot more to see in Berlin than Munich itself, but Munich is a great hub for day trips. Also, if you are traveling by car, plan on less Rothenburg odt time so that you can squeeze in a couple other romantic road stopsmy favorites were Weiskirche and Dinklesbuhl, although nordlingen was also quite charming!

Posted by Martin
Germany
210 posts

I agree with Russ, spend more time in Berlin. The city is huge and has many things to offer. And Potsdam with Sanssouci is just around the corner. A full day for Rothenburg odT is too much, you can easily see a second town like Dinkelsbühl or Bamberg (which I rate higher) on this day.
And I diasagree with Caitlin. If you are interested in museums you need at least a full day in Dresden. Getting to Pillnitz castle, Königstein fortress or Meissen with a paddle steamer requires a second day.

Posted by Kelly
St Petersburg Florida
948 posts

I pretty much did this itinerary on my first trip to Germany but in 9 nights.....so your plan looks great. We did Berlin (2 nights), Dresden (1), Nuremburg (1), Munich (3 nights with side trips to Neuschwanstein and Dachau), Rothenburg (1), Cologne (1, flying out the next day).
Our trip was a blur. Arriving into town mostly at night, most of our photos were blurred. When we sit down and review what we did, we didn't do much, we missed so many museums. I would never do a trip like that again. Maybe take one of your nights from Munich and add to Dresden. I am not a fan of 1 nights stays, not anymore.

Posted by Wendy
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
183 posts

Hi If you stayed in Nuremberg longer you could easily make day trips to Rothenburg, Bamberg, and Wurzburg using the TagesTicket Plus which I believe cost 16.50 euros.
http://www.vgn.de/CFF6B06F-C0B4-11D7-AE44-00034709FE0C Anyway you could depart from Munich? Then you could stop in Nuremberg between Berlin and Munich. If you plan on seeing the rally grounds in Nuremberg that could take you most of the day to see. I agree with everyone else Berlin needs one more day at least! Fantastic city. This really is a whirlwind trip, I would slow it down there is so much to do and see. Pick a few cities and base there then day trip to places of intrest. Wendy

Posted by Kurt
Nassau
52 posts

Compared to many other folks who post possible itineraries, I'd say yours is pretty reasonable. As noted, you can spend lots of time in Berlin, but 2 ½ days is good to get a taste. There are many bus/boat combo tours that will get you a 2 – 3 hours feel for the city and then you can concentrate on what you like. The German Historical Museum is very impressive. There's also Museum Island with many art museums, etc. Don't forget the "food floor" of KeDeWe department store if you are a foodie. We went to Dresden for a day trip on a last minute whim while not too far away and I've never regretted it. Just a couple of hours with lunch in an outdoor café near the Frauenkirche, but amazing.
Then you'll get a nice taste of the different parts of Bavaria – wonderful. I hope you enjoy it and have lots of good things to eat and drink and many memories.