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Good morning train travelers. We are four seniors traveling to London in August for a month and in the latter part of the month, we plan a 2 day overnight train trip to Birmingham. Our dates are fixed and we understand there are two train stations selling tickets. Anybody have a suggestion as to which train station they would use....and can we save a good deal buying our tickets now rather than at some later time when we are in London. We find that sometime senior tickets are only available to Brits and not to visitors. We are not interested in taking a motor coach, only the train and only to the New Town station in B'Ham. Thanks for any tips offered....

Mollieone

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I think OH means "Other Half" in this case - Her husband :-)

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Do you mean Birmigham New Street station rather than New Town?

Use this site to see the options for your journey and buying tickets. The earlier the better.

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/planjourney/query

There is a Senior Rail Card which is available to buy at £26. Not sure whether it would be worth your while, it would depend on whether you take enough rail journeys to cover the initial cost. My OH has such a card and he tells me that he gets a further 30% off an already discounted fare.

http://www.senior-railcard.co.uk/

PS - your particular journey/route is a good example of how it can be much cheaper to buy a single ticket for each journey rather than a return (round trip) ticket!

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Hi Linda in Kent,

Thanks for the information I'll pursue it later today. But I do have one question..... what is an OH...here in the states, it says OHIO to me, but I suspect it may be akin to an OAP which I do know!

In fact my email address is one I picked up in England when I was asking for 4 OAP entries to a wonderful outdoor site. The lady who was taking the money while the other 3 parked our car in the car park, said to her companion ticket issuing volunteer..."Four Wrinklies please Trevor" We have loved it ever since!

And it IS the New Town Station about 1 mile out from the Museum.

Here is one for you...Aloha Nui Loa...which means Hello and goodbye and I love you etc etc in Hawaii!

Mollie

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Hi Linda in Kent,

Thanks for the information I'll pursue it later today. But I do have one question..... what is an OH...here in the states, it says OHIO to me, but I suspect it may be akin to an OAP which I do know!

In fact my email address is one I picked up in England when I was asking for 4 OAP entries to a wonderful outdoor site. The lady who was taking the money while the other 3 parked our car in the car park, said to her companion ticket issuing volunteer..."Four Wrinklies please Trevor" We have loved it ever since!

And it IS the New Town Station about 1 mile out from the Museum.

Here is one for you...Aloha Nui Loa...which means Hello and goodbye and I love you etc etc in Hawaii!

Mollie

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Two train companies go from London Euston to Birmingham New Street: Virgin trains and London Midland trains. The walk up anytime standard (2nd class) fare is £70 on Virgin trains and £40 on London Midland trains. Discount fares booked well in advance at www.eastcoast.co.uk can be as low as £5. The price keeps going up as more discount fare tickets are sold. Book today to get the best fare that is still available.

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Mollie - sorry, Gary is right OH is "Other Half". Needless to say he calls me, to my face anyway, his BH ie "Better Half"!

Love the story about the term Wrinklies. Have been known to use the expression myself!

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Regarding the Hoard - good call -- info from the museum:

A selection of around 60 items, many not previously displayed will be on show including helmet fragments decorated with stylised animals and warriors. Other previously unseen items include decorative plaques in the shape of eagles and a golden duck’s head.
This is a temporary exhibition. It can be seen in Gallery 20 until mid-June. The exhibition will then be transfered to the Industrial Gallery where it will go on long term display until the new Hoard Gallery opens. During the transfer from Gallery 20 to the Industrial Gallery there may be a short period when the Hoard is not on display. Information about this will be added closer to the time or contact us for more information.

more to follow ...

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A few comments:

If you all 4 travel together on each segment you may be better off with a Groupsave ticket where 3 or 4 folks travel for the price of 2.

No senior discounts on British trains without the previously mentioned appropriate £26 per person card. You will probably find cheaper fares looking for promotions.

Use the London Midland website. www.londonmidland.com for all their deals. Using the east coast trains website which is that of the government owned competitor is like using a GM website to find deals on Hondas.

There is no New Town station in Birmingham. There is a New Town area , a very industrial area out of the centre of Birmingham. If you need to get there how will you get there from your station?

You say the station is some distance from the museum. Which museum are you trying to get to?

There are 4 stations with Birmingham in their names:
Birmingham New Street, Birmingham Snow Hill, Birmingham Moor Street, and Birmingham International. They are all quite different from each other and on different lines.

All stations on the network sell tickets; all train companies have web pages and sell tickets.

Each train company defines peak travel time (with the most expensive prices) and off-peak differently.

Each train company defines first class and standard class differently with different first class amenities.

4 different companies provide train service from London to Birmingham; generally the fastest are the most expensive, the slowest less, with exceptions for promotions. Your mileage may vary.

If you give a few more specifics we can give much clearer information.

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Dear Nigel,

You are the man! You actually are in Birmingham so here we go.

We are the four seniors from London wanting to go by train to New Street station in Birmingham. Our motel is the Premier Inn-Broad Street Canal Side mentioned as being a 10 minute walk from the station and about 1 mile from the Birmingham Museum and Art Galleries. We are staying two nights at the motel

We have no idea what sort of territory we will be walking through but we like to sight see as we walk and would take a bus..taxi...whatever is available from the motel into the city center. We probably would go in the am after breakfast and stay the day taking a light lunch at the museum and then a heartier dinner before heading back to the motel at least on our second day. If we are anxious we will go the first afternoon too.

We are going for the Staffordshire Hoard and the pre Raphaelites....Burne Jones is a favorite of mine and then on departure day we would like a train in the early afternoon back to London. Does this make sense to you? I do like the four for the price of two Group fare. This will be the only train trip we will be taking incidentally.

Our very best to you!!

Mollie

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Mollie

New Street Station is the one for you.
London Midland will get you there from London Euston in a little under 2 and a half hours. Its generally cheaper and stops a bit more. You don't have to change trains but you can change in Northampton if you like. Trains run at up to 100 mph, a small first class area with electric plugs and tables and curtains, no catering, and lots of standard class seats. Reservations are available but not for specific seats. Huge picture windows allow easy views of the spectacular scenery.

Virgin trains will do the trip in about an hour quicker with fewer stops, travel at up to 125 mph, tilt, have electric plugs at all seats, in first class serve food on china for a price, in standard have access to a buffet area (you don't get a buffet, its more like a counter in a shop), smaller windows not always lined up with the seats, and are generally quite a lot more money.

Both are good for the niches they fill.

The hotel you will be at is near Gas Street Basin which is a highly picturesque narrow boat marina on the 250 year old canals. You can walk down the tow path next to the canal to quite near the museum.

That's below street level. On street level, Broad Street is a street of restaurants and bars, with the emphasis on bars into the evening and weekends. A little down at mouth because due to the recession fewer people go out and spend less money.

Around the canals are thriving areas of other restaurants and bars, less emphasis on bars.

At the far end of Gas Street Basin is The Mailbox, with posh shops and restaurants, emphasis on posh.

You could walk through The Mailbox to the side exit of New Street Station if you knew the way and didn't have luggage, but there are lots of stairs on the way. That's probably the 10 minutes the hotel mentions. I'd take a taxi from the front of the Station when you arrive until you get your bearings. With 4 of you and luggage that's probably best.

good luck and enjoy

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You don't have to know which train companies cover any particular route if you use the National Rail Enquiries site. If you use the "Cheapest Fare Finder" function on the NRE site it will show you the train companies covering that particular route and the fares they are charging. It will then route you through to whichever company you chose to go with to pay for the ticket.

As I said before the train companies individual sites will also sell tickets for each other eg East Coast will sell you one way tickets to Birmingham in August for £7 with Virgin and £6 with London Midland. IMO the 45 to 50 minutes shorter journey time is well worth the extra £1 !