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First time abroad for 60 somethings

Let me say first that frequent travelers are going to try to dissuade me from doing what I am proposing because it doesn't make sense to most people. Trust me, don't even try to talk me into a different itinerary. But that doesn't mean I don't desperately need the help of someone who knows about travel to and from Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

We will arrive and depart from Dublin. Because we don't care for cities and prefer to see the countryside and small towns by car, we will go straight to the Dingle Peninsula to see Dingle and the Ring of Kerry. From Western Ireland, we need to get to the Isle of Skye and the Central Scottish Highlands.

This is where the questions start. Is it best to keep the car that we rent in Dublin for our whole trip and travel by car ferry to Scotland, or should we take a low cost air carrier to Scotland? Who are the low cost carriers and where do they fly into and out of? How "low" is low cost?
If we keep the car, how long will it take us to get to the ferry point in Northern Ireland (hours? days?) assuming we see the important sights along the way? What is the best land route in terms of time savings? If we fly, where should we drop our car?

The other questions are essentially the same except that they refer to getting back to Dublin from North Wales. Should we go by ferry (leaving from what port?)or fly? How long does the ferry crossing take? Is the expense of a flight worth the time saved?

The absolute "must sees" in our short stay (June 8 - June 23) are Western Ireland, the Isle of Skye and the Central Highlands, and North Wales. Anything else is gravy.

We're open to any and all suggestions except a change in the basic itinerary. Thank you for anything you can tell us.

Jammy

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I would suggest flying from Ireland to Scotland, since your time is so short. You can see a list of who flies from where to where at www.whichbudget.com, but you could also check "regular" airlines like Aer Lingus, who often have inexpensive fares, too. Depending on if you find a deal, the fare could be as low as 1 cent plus taxes, so there is really no way to know what it would cost for a particular airline at a particular time. Check each airline's website for details. You would drop your car at whatever airport you flew from. Only you can determine if the expense of a flight would be worth the time saved, since you don't indicate what it is you wish to see. I have no info about ferries in either direction

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Thank you, Nancy. This is exactly the kind of information we need. So you think that we should take the car back to Dublin and fly from there -- taking a different route than we took when we went from Dublin to Dingle?

We are really dense about these things. We want to see as much of the countryside as we can, but it may not make sense to drive through Northern Ireland since it is not really one of our destinations. However, if the scenery is spectacular and the road trip would offer quintessential Ireland, then we would go that way.

Thank you again for your suggestions.

Jammy

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I agree that you should fly to Scotland. I'd suggest you fly into Inverness. You could base yourselves there and do lots of wonderful day trips- Isle of Skye, Orkney, Whisky tours, Great Glen and/or Glen Coe, Culloden and Clava Cairns, cruise on the firth, cruise up Loch Ness to see Urquart Castle and the village of Drumnadrochit. Then I'd suggest looking into taking the train to Wales. Probably the Snowdonia area. You might need to stop somewhere for one night on the way. We have stayed in the village of Betsw-y-Coed near Snowdonia and loved it. You can do a steam train ride up Mt. Snowdon and there are flint and coal mines to tour. Lovely walks also. Then maybe train to Cardiff for one or two nights, then fly back to Ireland.

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Ideally you would want to fly from Shannon to Scotland, since you will be in western Ireland. You'll have to check out the carriers and prices like Nancy said.

If that doesn't work for you and you don't mind all the driving, drive back to Dublin, drop the car, take the ferry to Holyhead, pick up another rental car in Holyhead. I'm not sure you can take a rental from Irelend to England/Wales. Ask the rental agency.

Hopefully someone in this forum will have some help about getting to/from Skye. I have no experience/info for that.

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I don't think you want to drive back to Dublin or up into Northern Ireland. It will take too much time. I would suggest looking into flights out of Shannon, which is much closer. I would think you could get a flight to Inverness, which will put you in the middle of the highlands, and not too far from Skye. You might also see if there are any flights from the County Kerry airport.

I'm not familiar with the ferries between countries, but I think it would be very timeconsuming to get from Dingle to Scotland on a ferry. I feel sure flying is the best option. However, there might be a ferry from North Wales to Dublin that would make sense.

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Thanks all. These are very, very helpful suggestions. I think it's settled then, we'll fly.

Jammy

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Yes, I was thinking flying from Shannon, not driving back to Dublin first. What is non-negotiable, the order of the places visited or just the places? Personally, I would route you in another order, but if that is non-negotiable, then the best you can do is fly from Shannon to Scotland.

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Nancy, the non-negotiable part is arriving in Dublin on June 8 and departing Dublin on June 23. The other non-negotiable part is starting in Western Ireland.

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I think you will find it challenging to travel from Shannon to Scotland. They all require a transfer in Dublin (or London, or Paris!). So, I would recommend planning your trip so that you end up back in Dublin and fly from there to Edinburgh. You can look into Inverness or Glasgow. Whenever I'm in Scotland it seems like there are always cheap flights between Dublin and Scotland. I would second Toni's suggestion of Inverness, but spend a bit of time in Edinburgh if you can. It's a great little city. Check out the Scotsman online to get a good feel for what the Scots are thinking, talking and arguing about these days.

Pam

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To add what Nancy said, Aer Lingus has vacation packages under "Aerlingusvacations.com", which includes air, car and hotel/ B+B.