Which pass to buy according to my detailed itinerary below :) ?

There should be a couple people on here to help. Hopefully. Everyone is always so great. I thought I was going to get the Swiss Pass for the same reasons you are asking, but then I read something today about get the BO Pass and the Half Pass. So , I will, for sure, be following this thread too.

Yes it is hard to always know what might be best until you do the math I went through the same thing last year. It would be helpful to know how many days you are spending in each area and what towns you are staying in. Yes cable cars are included in the half fare card. Not sure where you would be going to Jungfraujoch from - we went from Wengen and paid 90 CHF last fall round trip with the half fare card.

Thanks for the advice :) I will update my request :)

Following this thread as well. I'm taking my daughter this summer to France and Switzerland. Trying to figure out the best rail pass situation.

Paris: 4 days

Chamonix: 2 days

Murren: 4 days

Lucerne: 1 day

Zurich: 3 days

Honestly it might just be easiest for you to do a half fare card and no pass because your trip is so hiking focused, as opposed to sight seeing focused. For 3 days I also don’t see how you’re going to do Lake Thun, Schynigge Platte to First hike, Schilthorn hike and go to Jungfraujoch. Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but that’s 4 days of activity.

Kevin, put your itinerary and questions in a separate thread for better help. Adding onto this thread will get confusing.

Ah ah yes I agree
it would go as follows

Day 1: Train vers Thun 2h. Early boat Thun / Interlaken 2h. Train to Lauterbrunnen. Maybe visit Wengen

Day 2 and 3: 2 full days of hiking so we have to pick 2 options amoing these 3 options :)

Plan A
Cable car vers Jungfraujoch + Mönchsjochhütte + the Eiger Trail. Train to Kleine Scheidegg. Voir Grindelwaldblick. Back to Lauterbrunnen

Plan B
Murren + lunch break at Rotstockhutte + Schilthorn-piz Gloria + Birg and Thrill Walk

Plan C:
Randonnee entre Schynige Platte to First Cliff Walk (16 kms) Short hike to Bachalpsee. Cable car to Grindewald.

thanks :)

What about the days not in Lauterbrunnen area ? That would be helpful as well to know the total days you are traveling and where you are the other days. As you noted there are several passes and options.

Here it is :)

SUMMARY: 20 days 19 nights
Half a day in Montreux / 1 day in Verbier / Trek between Verbier and Zermatt 9 days (no transportation needed) / 3 full days in Zermatt using cable cars / 3 full days in Jungfrau area using cable cars and trains / back to Zurich

None of the BORP/STP/1/2 fare pass will cover Murren to Schilthorn which is reduced 50% for all 3. If you plan to hike as you mention then it becomes a moot point unless you descend via cable car. The trip to Jungfraujoch is the same with 1/2 fare and BORP (50% reduction) but only 25% with STP.

Based on what I can tell - I think the 1/2 fare card will be you best bet. I don’t see your spending 438CHF that the STP will cover for 8 days - days 12-19. You would then need to buy your first two days of tickets - could use super saver on covered routes.

The BORP is 165CHF for 3 days assuming you have purchased a 1/2 fare card (120 CHF) so you would need to spend 185CHF (in half fare) in the BO region (starting with Thun) to break even as the reduced BORP cost does not quite cover the 1/2 fare card cost as it has in the past. I don’t see you spending that as well regardless of which 2 of your 3 plans you get to do. However, as you know Schilthorn and Jungfraujoch are weather dependent if you care about what you can see when you get there so you might need another plan if the weather isn’t great. There are so many hikes in the area I am confident you would find an excellent alternative if need be.

WIth the 1/2 fare card you have to buy each ticket (typically are point to point good anytime that day) which for me was super simple using the SBB app. I had great service on my mobile so I usually bought tickets walking to the stations or waiting for the train/bus to arrive. We bought cable car tickets at the cable car ticket offices. If that is a concern then the BORP with 1/2 fare may work better at least for the 3 days you’re in BO.

I hope this helps!

Woww this is so helpful! <3 Yes I am thinking of hiking Murren to Schilthorn.

Lauterbrunnen to Murren by cable car (via Grütschalp) + lunch break at Rotstockhutte + hike to Schilthorn-piz Gloria + walk to Birg station (thrill walk) and go back to Murren either by cable car or hike.. + Cable car Murren / Lauterbrunnen (via Stechelberg for a change) Not sure if that is doable...

I was worried about paying for a pass and end up not going to Jungfraujoch because of weather issues. I think most passes are great because they gave 25 or 50% off on Jungfraujoch but what if we end up not going there? I also checked all the train prices on SBB and it was not so expensive, as you can see. No long-distance trains.

So the The BORP is better than the Junggfrau travel pass for my need? (if I by the 1/2 travel card as you mention)

I am not that familiar with the Jungfrau pass. Maybe others on here are. It was recommended to me by the TI office in Wengen but like the BORP it was fairly expensive compared to what I thought we would spend with the 1/2 fare card. We were in the BO region for about 9 days total spending a week in Wengen. I don’t think it covers as much as the BORP and I didn’t see the Bus that you can take from Lauterbrunnen to Stechelburg which we used quite a bit included. I have not seen anyone on this forum recommend it.

That's good to know! Might be interesting if you are 100% sure to visit Jungfraujoch as the ticket is 75chf instead of 230 but then again, cable cars and buses do not seem too expensive there. So many options :(

With the 1/2 fare card and BORP - Jungfraujoch was 90CHF from Wengen last fall. To be honest - it was very crowded with large tour groups and pretty touristy. We had a gorgeous day and enjoyed the trip as the views were marvelous, but if the cost for you is concerning there are other activities you might enjoy more.

Yes I dont know if I will enjoy so many people lollll. I might try the Matterhorn Glacier in Zermatt instead. I am worried about paying so much money and arrive at the Top and not enjoy it as it's wayyyyy too crowded. But I guess if we go there early, maybe...

I’ve already chatted about the Schilthorn hike in your other post, but there is almost zero chance you’re going to want to hike down after you’re done hiking up. You should account for the one way fare down from the Schilthorn in your cost analysis and make sure your hike finishes by 4 pm to make it down. You mentioned going down to Birg. Instead, I’d recommend stopping at Grauseeli on the way up. No real reason to hike back up to Birg after being at the Schilthorn. Not sure where you’re getting your route plan, but if you use Komoot, look for the route Murren>Rotstockhutte passing near Bryndlii to the left of Spielbodenalp (not going up behind Spielbodenalp) , then route Rotstockhutte>Schilthorn via Grauseeli

Wowww this is so helpful! Thanks a million. So the Thrill Walk is not a must-see? I also saw a loop online going Murren - Schilthorn and back to Murren but might be hard for the knees loll. I will definitely check your option in Gaia or All Trails. Any other hikes you suggest in this area? You seem to know much about it. Thanks xxx

Yes your knees would hate you. Promise :)
If you want to see the Birg Thrill Walk, then just make sure you get up to the Schilthorn by around 3 pm and then ride the cable car down to Birg to do the Thrill Walk before continuing on down to Murren. The Thrill Walk is good, but it’s really meant for people who aren’t doing the epic hike you’re doing. After hiking up, you’re not going to be that shocked and impressed by the Thrill Walk. It’s the easy way for people to get a feel for the hike you’re already fully doing.

Ah ah I had a feeling that it was something more touristic :) I've identified all the suggestion in Gaia. Should I also skip Jungfraujoch if I go to Schitlhorn? Cant believe I will have to pay 400$ cad to see jungfraujoch (without discounted train passes)!!! I am worried about arriving at the top and seen 109282727 people and just want to go away as fast as I can lolllllll!!

Jungfraujoch is not my favorite option in the area. It is expensive, VERY crowded and a long train ride inside the mountain in the dark. Since it seems you enjoy big hiking, I’d do Schilthorn, Schynigge Platte/First hiking and then if you have extra time do a boat ride or something like a day doing Wengen/Mannlichen/Royal Walk/Kleine Scheidegg/Fallbodensee/Eiger Express or Wegneralp.

Another option is to split up your Murren hiking into 2 days and do one day as the North Face hike counter clockwise from Allmendhubel with a detour to Rotstockhutte and then on a separate day hike down from the Schilthorn via Grauseeli and Bryndlii to Murren or continue down to Gimmelwald.