Doing the Berner Oberland in June. While June is summer, I'm also cautious of the weather as we will be going up the mountain to the likes of First and Männlichen. What would the weather be up there and how much winter gear do i need? I intend to dress in layers, but still need to work out how much gear i need to carry.
Are gloves, down jacket, beanie going overboard?
I'm also mindful of the weight of my luggage so don't want to be bringing more than i need.
It is not cold in June to someone from Midwest USA or college kid types; you don't need a down jacket. You definitely need a hat with a bill, more to protect exposed skin (e.g. the tips of your nose and ears ) from the sun rays more harmful to humans at higher altitudes than the cold. Sunburn will sneak up on you even when it is cloudy . Also there are some steep parts to walk to get the views so walking warms you up. Dress in layers. Everyone has a different thermometer but watch out for sunburn. I got a beautiful tan hiking at high altitudes in Switzerland without feeling hot or cold.
It is not cold in June to someone from Midwest USA or college kid types; you don't need a down jacket.
Even up in the mountains? I thought there could be snow?
For snow you have to go rather high, like 3000m +. But even if there is snow on the ground, when the sun is out it is not really cold.
You don't need winter gear. You need all weather gear...
Great that would save me a bit of weight in the luggage then. How many degrees difference are we talking about compared to on the ground?
It is not cold in June to someone from Midwest USA
I guess it depends on who that person is. :) I did not take my puffer coat for my June 2022 trip and I regretted it. It is cold at the higher elevations and can be cool in the morning at the lower elevations. I would have loved to have had my puffer for my early morning walks around Wengen.
Lesson learned. I am taking my puffer coat for my upcoming return trip this June.
We went in June, but to the other side of the Lauterbrunnen Valley (Murren). In town, the weather was fantastic. At the top of the Schilthorn, it was about 5-10C, so you'd want a jacket. There was still too much snow to hike from the summit, so we went down to Birg and hiked down from there. Very pleasant.
It depends on what you mean by “winter gear.” We go there every year in mid-Sept to mid-Oct and I take a packable puffer (women’s version also available) like this one https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/119860?page=mens-primaloft-packaway-jacket-mens-regular&bc=&feat=packable%20jacket-SR0&csp=a&attrValue_0=48613&searchTerm=packable%20jacket&pos=14. Over a wool tee (which I wear anytime below 70 degrees) and a lightweight mid layer, it is plenty and I often take it off later in the day. A rain hat with wide brim is handy, water resistant hiking shoes. Hubby likes to take a knit hat for ears and we take gloves for use in early AM.
Better to have that cold weather stuff and not need it, than not have it at all. Mountain weather anywhere in the world is very unpredictable and changes so quickly. Even if it is sunny and warm at some point during the day, when the shadows fall or it gets cloudy and windy, the daily high temperature doesn't matter.
`I take a lightweight, non-bulky down jacket on every trip to Switzerland, regardless of the month. Folded and pressed flat in a ziploc bag, it compresses to a package 1/2 inch thick until I need it.
If you don’t have such a jacket already, Patagonia has some good ones on sale for $139, in a variety of colors and sizes:
https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-down-sweater-jacket/84675.html?dwvar_84675_color=CRMD
This one is a pullover, not down, but should also pack small:
And if you wear S or XL, this hoody is only $89:
Womens’ option, not down, in lots of colors and sizes for $99:
This is the one I have, only available in small sizes at the sale price of $119:
The women’s down sweater for $138 would be a bit warmer, but again is only available in small sizes:
https://www.patagonia.com/product/womens-down-sweater-jacket/84684.html?dwvar_84684_color=BURD
thank you for all those replies and suggestions of clothing. Much appreciated. I think i will bring a packable uniqlo down jacket just in case. Its lightweight.
Does anyone know where I can find historically the temperature up in the mountains listed? Are we talking about 40-80 deg F (5-10 degrees celcius) difference between ground level and top of the mountain?
This site has history, under past
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@2659530
You can search most locations
thanks
wow thats still pretty cold. under 10 degress celcius. (50 F). Not used to that weather. Sounds like my winter gear is going back into my suitcase lol
Is murren at a higher elevation and thats why its so cold? I looked at Grindelwald and its not too bad under 18 deg C (60 F).
Don't just look at temperatures. If the sun shines you can often walk outside in shorts and t-shirt even if it is freezing.
In June on the Männlichen I would wear shorts, t-shirt, and pack a windbreaker in my backpack. It can actually get quite hot in he sun. The perceived temperature is often a lot higher than the air temperature.
Hence layers. So you can dress up/down according to need.
Another factor is that the air is thinner at higher elevation. Short lecture on physics is that there is lower convective heat transfer rate because there are fewer molecules of cold air for your body to loose heat to. This thinner air also means, as Wengen K points out, there is less filtering atmosphere over head to lower the radiant heat transfer from the sun to your body. Wear sunscreen, you can get fried. Maennlichen is 2300 m (7600 ft) above sea level.
That is why I could ski with only a vest in Wengen in January when I lost my ski jacket. Remember the lost ski jacket?
The weather in the 1st week of April is not going to be the same as in June.
Great thanks, that’s good to know. WengenK mentioned windbreaker, is it likely to be windy at the top?
Also I was planning to do the panaramic trail down from Maennlichen, if the trail is open, can I assume the path is ok and I won’t get stuck half way down because the ground is still slippery?
A windbreaker is synonymous with jacket, slicker, anorak, top coat etc.
I happened to be in Lauterbrunnen vallley when it was windy and on top of the Jungfrau and the Schilthorn when it was not.
The panaramic trail https://www.maennlichen.ch/en/summer/experiences/panorama-trail.html
I found is pretty much flat, that's why it is so great for everyone.
Just like at home here in Chicago, decisions to go for hike or bike ride and what to wear are made the day before or the day of based on how the weather is or has been. The hotels all have live cams that you can see on the TV in your room of what weather conditions are like at higher elevations or just ask the people at the desk.
Also I was planning to do the panaramic trail down from Maennlichen,
if the trail is open, can I assume the path is ok and I won’t get
stuck half way down because the ground is still slippery?
When in June are you going? The Panorama trail Männlichen - Kleine Scheidegg typically opens mid-June. Last year it opened on June 10th and the previous year it opened June 13th.. They won’t open it if it’s not safe. So, no worries there.
This is the website you want to check to see when it opens:
https://www.maennlichen.ch/en/summer/experiences/panorama-trail.html
I’ll be there in June myself and will be checking for the opening. I’ll post on the forum if I happen to notice it is open before someone else does.
Thank you everyone, i'm sorry for the late reply, i must have missed the notification.
Männlichen - Kleine Scheidegg typically opens mid-June. Last year it opened on June 10th and the previous year it opened June 13th.. They won’t open it if it’s not safe. So, no worries there.
Have they announced when the Panaromic trail and the royal crown hike is going to be open yet? I looked on the website but I can’t see anything.
We won’t know when the Panaromic trail is open until it is open. There is no scheduled date because it depends on the weather. It will not open until the trail is clear of snow and ice. I was just checking the web cameras up at Männlichen and there is still a bit of snow up there. But a lot can happen in a couple of weeks.
https://www.maennlichen.ch/en/live.html
The royal walk I believe you can get to once the cable car starts running on May 25th. It is definitely worth going up even if the Panaromic trail is not open yet.
I'm looking at the webcam for mannichlen and still a lot of snow. Is this normal for this time of year?
Curious, I'm scanning the webcams and throughout the day mostly its very cloudy, but there is a window that you see blue skies.
Given the weather changes so quickly, when you do hikes, can it become really cloudy half way through the walk that it becomes dangerous to continue and also dangerous to go back up?
I’m not liking what I’m seeing on those webcams. There is even a note now when you go to the site that the Männlichen area is still snow-covered and it’s recommended to have good footwear.
I see a few people up there now. The walking paths on top are shoveled and clear of snow. I can’t recall if you mentioned your travel dates, but it’s not looking like the panorama trail will be opening anytime soon. I’ll be in the area June 12th – the 18th and I’ll be surprised if it is open during my stay. I still have hope though.
As I stated before, it’s still worth going up for the views. You could take the cable car up from Wengen and then down to Grindelwald. That’s what I plan to do if the trail is still closed.
Here’s hoping for lots of sun to melt that snow.
Thanks for all that information. Note to self, look for barn without cows... got it! :D
Yeah I saw that note about foot wear as well and I too am nervous. I'm there about the same time as you. I'm really hoping for good weather, I'm only there for a few days so I don't really have any room to move my activities around that much.
Even at grindlewald first, I have seen more blue skies on the web cams, the view is fantastic but the blue skies are very short lived. Can be covered in clouds 10 mins later.
When I'm up there, and everything is covered up, how long do you think I should wait for until it clears before I give up?
May is still quite early - I've found that in some previous years. The higher the colder, if it is too snowy there is always a bit lower, especially in a non-shady area.
If you’re only in the area for a few days, I would probably still go up to the mountains even if it’s cloudy. I got some great cloud pictures 2 years ago.
If you have a good weather day, get up early and take advantage of it. For one of my trips, we had originally planned to see Schilthorn and Männlichen on separate days. But our Schilthorn day was perfect weather-wise so we left Schilthorn earlier than planned and headed over to Männlichen.
We might still get lucky this year. It is looking cooler and more snow-covered than the last few years at this time, but that doesn’t mean things can’t quickly turn around.
There’s a new webcam of Wengen. Looking good there. Lots of green grass. :)
woo i like that greeness!
So far on the mannichlen web cams, the earlier, the cloudier it is. The blue sky i typically see comes our about noon. Maybe it was just the day i clicked.
It is still pretty snowy (and cloudy/foggy) up at Männlichen, at 5 pm.
https://www.jungfrau.ch/en-gb/live/webcams/#webcam-maennlichen
Boo on the snow lola!
Tommy, this might be a good Plan B for you: Take the train to Kleine Scheidegg and walk from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengernalp and then you can train from there back to Wengen. I forget about this until I was looking over my notes just now.
Thanks Carrie, but the snow situation at Kleine Scheidegg is also the same isn’t it?
It's lower elevation, so probably a better chance that trail won't be snow-covered.
Ah I see, thanks for the tip! Enjoy your trip.
Hello Tommy:
Where do you live? If there is a Japanese high-end dollar store called Daiso nearby, go there and buy some "heat packs." These are stickers that you should put on the outside of your innermost layer and they emit heat. I bring these with me all the time to the mountains, just in case the weather turns. They were very useful in the Dolomites in Sept 2021, when the clouds suddenly covered the sun and it started to rain (almost freezing rain). I didn't need a down jacket. These are very similar to heat packs sold at camping stores such as REI, but are far less expensive.
Layers, as mentioned above, are key. In June, the weather should be better. However, as you already know, the elements are still hard to predict on higher altitudes.
Where do you live? If there is a Japanese high-end dollar store called Daiso nearby, go there and buy some "heat packs."
Ah I actually have these at home but I haven’t used them before. How long do they last once activated?
Hi Tommy: they usually last 8-10 hours. The packaging should tell you.
Typo correction: I did not need a down jacket.
Awesome thanks
That there is still snow on the Männlichen this time of the year is not unusual. I remember a year that there was still so much snow that some people took their skis up, and skied down to Holenstein.
Right now the Männlichen is clear from clouds (I can see it from my house). There is some high clouds, but the weather is quite nice.
Some days there are low clouds, and you can even see the clouds flow over the saddle. Quite interesting...
Once I saw WengenK post excellent advice here that I had never thought
about before - if you happen to be caught in an unexpected
thunderstorm, look for a barn and go in it.
Usually the eaves offer sufficient protection though. But one day we were hiking from Arven up to Männlichen, and got caught out in a thuncerstorm, and ended up taking shelter in the building of the Tschuggen skilift...
That there is still snow on the Männlichen this time of the year is not unusual.
Do you think the snow would have melted by mid June? Is the weather getting warmer?
Oh, I hope the snow stays long. But do not be afraid. Snow on the ground does not imply that it will be cold. That there is still snow around is just because it does not disappear overnight.
The weather will determine if you are comfortable in shorts and t-shirt, or need a windbreaker, not the amount of snow that has managed to survive.
I’m more thinking the snow will mean the opening of the hiking trail will get delayed lol
Do not check the cameras today on Männlichen. You are not going to like what you'll see. :(
Ok now I'm really getting nervous. Looking at the webcam again at mannichlen at 1:50pm. It looks like its started snowing again. Visibility is like almost zero. ** sobs **
omg @Carrie you read my mind. I didn't see your post until after I posted.
** sob **
There is indeed 20cm of fresh snow up there. Happens. Weather is supposed to get better from Tuesday.
Following this thread and planning alternatives. Sobbing with you.
Weather is supposed to get better from Tuesday
Gonna hold you to that Wengen. :-) I fly out on Wednesday, but will start in Montreux and then Zermatt.
Tommy and Barbara. :-( At this point I’m wondering, do I even need to take my new sunhat. And I may need to ditch the capris and throw in another pair of jeans.
Gonna hold you to that Wengen.
Me too :D! lol I’m hoping it doesn’t rain and cloud up. If it does I’m not sure how to replan my day, going to each place takes time, by the time I get there weather may have shifted again.
At this point I’m wondering, do I even need to take my new sunhat. And I may need to ditch the capris and throw in another pair of jeans.
I was thinking yesterday when looking at the webcam it feels very cold. No way T-shirt and sweater is going to cut it. I was contemplating whether I should bring a scarf instead of my lightweight neck gaiter I use for cycling.
Have a great time Carrie, hoping the weather does get warmer and things start to get better like wengen says , very quickly.
If it is a terrible day up the mountains, do you think I should pivot to activities on ground level like strolling through Lauterbrunnen onto Murren? Or would that also be terrible and poor visibility.
I think the weather might be fine by the time we all get there. I’m only concerned about whether my first choice trails will be open. I have back up plans if that happens. I’m definitely taking the Sun hat and one pair of capris.
The great thing about Switzerland is that the views are spectacular even at lower elevations. I love walking through Lauterbrunnen. And check out Stechelberg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUfvThwVzT0
A favorite of mine is the walk from Murren to Gimmelwald. I plan to take this walk every morning before breakfast for the days I’m staying in Murren. A boat ride on Lake Brienz to Hotel Giessbach is another great option.
Barbara is right, the weather will warm up. I have to remind myself that the weather is always warmer than I think it will be. Sun hat and capris stay in . :-) We’ll just have to keep an eye on the forecast and webcams when we are there and be flexible with plans.
Sure, it will be a little disappointing if the Panorama trail Männlichen - Kleine Scheidegg is not open. But that just means we’ll all have to go back. Maybe in September next time. :-)
I love that attitude! Game on Switzerland, here we come!
With the hiking trails given there is so much snow, if it is open, is there anything I need to be cautious off particularly when it is downhill? We don't get snow here in Australia (unless we go out to the mountains) so I'm not at all accustomed to that climate but I have heard about things like black ice and surface being very slippery.
I think others have said the trails won’t open until they are safe, but it’s worth checking. We will have good shoes and have arranged to borrow hiking poles from our hotel in Wengen and B&B in Mürren. Can’t wait! Have a great time tommy and Carrie.
Ah that is true, I do remember now reading that too. I’ve never used hiking poles before but I know they are available at the hotel but didn’t think I need them given the route is suitable for kids.
Have a great time!
Blues skies in Wengen and at Männlichen today!! :)
I’ll be checking daily to see if the Panorama trail is open. Whoever notices it first, please post on a new thread.
Everyone have a great trip!!
I live in Colorado. We always take at least a puffer jacket when going to the mountains. Even height of summer. Your gloves, beanie, down jacket is not going overboard. Sometimes all is fine until you stop and no generated heat and maybe a breeze and you will chill down.
The weather has indeed been good today. Now clouds are rolling in, and we might have a thunderstorm. Pretty much bog standard summer weather.
But last weekend we had a load of fresh snow on the Männlichen, so I doubt the path will be open soon. But I will go and have a look.
The issue with the panorama trail is that it partly runs over a slope that is composed of relatively lose shale, and in winter, when the snow is pressing down in it that slope moves sometimes. There have been years where, once the snow had gone, they discovered that the path had slid down more than 10 meters.
So every year they have to repair, and sometimes even rebuild that part. And they can only start when the snow is gone, as they cannot even bring in a snowplow as long as they are not certain of the state of the path below the snow...
The last day I can walk the panorama trail is June 19th, the day I head to Lucerne. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
Thanks for the update! I think I will miss it but I hope you make it Carrie!!
I don’t have a trip planned but now this thread has me checking the mountain webcams out of pure curiosity. I wish you all good luck in being able to take the hikes you’re interested in!
You too Meg!
We are in Wengen now. The weather has been absolutely beautiful nothing more than a sweater needed even we went Jungfrau
Yes. It finally stopped raining.
If it stays good the farmers will start making hay. And I can finally cut our gras as well.
Tommy, I’m starting to see more grass. Just need a couple good days of some nice sun. There might still be hope for you. You’ll have a great trip regardless.
Meg, the cameras are fun to watch. :-)
Paul and Wengen, thanks for the updates!!
Thanks everyone for the updates. Looking forward to it!
Carrie and everyone. I went up mannichlen today and it was beautiful, apparently the first good weather day.
The panoramic trail is still close. Bachalapsee at first is also closed. Hopefully you have more luck.
But I can’t complain, the weather is fantastic today!
Tommy!!! Glad you still went up. The weather has been fabulous today. I’ve been in Mürren and all over. Make sure you eat some zweifel paprika chips before you leave. Let’s hope the great weather continues. Fingers still crossed on the trail. Although I’ve already walked Mürren to gimmelwald a couple times. It’s another great walk for the views. Although those darn cable car wires are often in the way. You can see goats and cows!! Enjoy the rest of your trip!
Mürren was beautiful today. We dropped off our luggage and went straight to the Northface trail. It was one of the most beautiful trails I’ve ever been on.
Yesterday in Wengen we enjoyed the Staubbachbankli trail and the trail from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengernalp.
Carrie, the paprika chips are great and so was the avocado sandwich you have mentioned—I got one when changing trains in Basel.
Barbara I was so upset. Zurich airport was out of the avocado sandwich and the pretzel king in Zermatt was closed. Looked like they were doing work out front of it so hopefully just a temporary closure. Hoping I can get it in Lucerne.
I had a very good ham and cheese croissant sandwich from cafe liv in murren today. I should write a sandwich guidebook. :-) They’re just so quick and easy. I had dinner at my hotel yesterday and I spent half the time just sitting and waiting. Feels like wasted time. I have too much to see!!!
Enjoy the rest of your trip. Looks like maybe some rain tomorrow but my 3 weather apps have been pretty consistently wrong so far. Even the usually reliable meteo Swiss.
Barbara and Tommy, if you are near the murren train station, before you get to the station from town, look down on the right. I have seen a few small ibex hanging out there. These ones are loose/not fenced in. There is a group of fenced in ibex near the cable car station in gimmelwald. You should be able to hear their bells then you can follow the sound. But if you’re standing in front of the station, turn your back to the station and look straight ahead and slightly right. There’s a little barn and they have been hanging out in the yard in front of it. Walk up to the fence and they might run up to say hello.
That’s all I have for now. :-) I have to get out by 6. Love the early sunrise.
*EDITED: *ok so not sure if they are ibex or a different type of goat. I’ll post pics when I do my trip report. Maybe someone will know. Regardless they are cute and fun to watch.
Make sure you eat some zweifel paprika chips before you leave.
Please do tell me more, are these a specialty and where to get this? And the avocado sandwiches, first time I’m hearing about this, what’s so special?
Thanks for the ibex tip, I may go there tommorow. I covered a lot of ground today with the trails being closed. I only arrived around noon and I did mannichlien, then took cable car down to Grindelwald and did first, then down to harder Kulm. Then went to see the spot next to the church at wengen, walked back into my hotel at 10pm. My travel buddy commented that the clock was wrong at the wengen church because she thought it was much earlier lol, and I was like that’s the correct time!
Question about the farm fridges that sell milk. Are they pasteurised or unpasteurised??? Not sure whether I should try it, don’t want to get a bad tummy. But I love milk!
Carrie—-maybe Chamois rather than Ibex? They are pretty cute.
https://www.getalper.com/animal/chamois/
They are more common around Wengen and Mürren—-I have seen them from the cablecar heading up Männlichen, and on the slopes below the train station in Mürren. (But not fenced in or wearing bells). They are more closely related to antelopes than goats.
Ibex are larger and can have really large horns. I have only seen these around Chamonix.
https://factanimal.com/alpine-ibex/
Maybe you have seen the photos of these animals climbing concrete dams in Italy and elsewhere to get the salty efflorescence that forms on the concrete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG9TMn1FJzc
Ibex can hybridize with goats and in some areas (Texas for example) they are bred on purpose for hunting. And there apparently is a natural population of hybrids in the Swiss Alps.
But it is not likely you would see Ibex that close to civilization; they are truly wild animals and stay in remote, rocky areas.
There is a quite big herd of Ibex living on the Wengen side of the valley. You have to know where to look for them however. Early spring you will often encounter them if you walk from Innerwengen to Biglenalp. There was also a single very old male living roaming below Wengen for some a couple of years. You you could often see him right below the railway going up to Wengen. But I haven't seen him for a while yet, so maybe he finally passed away (he was ancient by Ibex standards).
Chamois are everywhere however. They used to be a regular visitor to my garden even, until a year ago a Lynx established herself here.
I booked the breinz rathorn for tommorow, with whether like today ** cries **, is it still worth going? I only got seat reservations
Omg Carrie. Thanks for the Murren to grimmelwald recommendation. It was stunning! I think the highlight of my trip so far.
I did lauterbrunnen to stechelberg, then took cable car to Murren then walked down to Gimmelwald. And thanks for not saying Gimmelwald to Murren, I would have died going uphill lol
Is that massive mountain the north face?
The famous Eiger North Face you cannot really see from Gimmelwald. From there you would be looking at the Schwarzmönch. (hich is also the name of a beer that you can drink in Gimmelwald. I hope you did...
Anyway, for the Eiger North Face you best go to Kleine Scheidegg. It is quite impressive.
Okay thanks, ironically I’m on my way to KS. I see some blue skies, but the weather shifts very quickly. Hope it’s not a wasted trip
Tommy, you can get the paprika chips at any Coop. And the avocado sandwich is at Bretzelkonig in the bigger train stations.
Carrie, we had lunch at the Edelweiss yesterday—very late after walking the Northface trail. Today we did both Grutschalp to Mürren and Mürren to Gimmelwalld.
Thank you. Are they hot, as in spicy?
Today we did both Grutschalp to Mürren and Mürren to Gimmelwalld
Me too but the other way around. It was fantastic. I hiked down the grimmerwald and took the cable car but up to Murren, then train toe grutschalp.
Not hot but mildly spicy. Less spicy than barbecue chips.
And have you done the Northface trail counterclockwise from Allmendhubel to Murren? It was gorgeous yesterday when we did it.
Ok thanks. No I haven’t, I wanted to do Klein schneidegg this afternoon but by the time I got to wengen it was almost 6. I think they shut early.
Is that an easy hike?
Lola and Wengen, I think you’re right and I saw chamois. There are ibex in interlaken at the alphine wildlife park next to harder Kulm. They have a few marmots too. Free but I wouldn’t make a special trip just for the park.
Tommy not sure about the Brienz train as I haven’t taken that. A good plan B might be a boat ride on lake brienz to giessbach for the waterfalls. see how the weather looks tomorrow. Looks like more rain. OR I took an easy walk down from allmendhubel. When you see the main sign it shows murren left or right. I went left. A tad steep in a few places though. Was about 40 mins. More if you take pics every 5 seconds like I do.
Barbara did you get the apple struddel? You may see me working there next time you’re there. -:) The owner offered me a job at breakfast this morning after I showed a few people how to make hot chocolate.
Tommy and Barbara I feel like I probably walked right by you guys today. Tomorrow I am off to wengen.
There was a note on the mannlichen website today about rockslides. Not looking too promising for the trail to open anytime soon.
Tommy and Barbara I feel like I probably walked right by you guys today. Tomorrow I am off to wengen.
Ha! I thought the same thing, everyone I walked passed I was thinking that could have been Carrie lol
Need some suggestions on what to do. On Sunday, I have a saver day pass. Initially I was planning to do lauterbrunnen to Murren and then go back to my hotel in wengen to pick up my suitcases and check out in the afternoon. But I did that today. So was hoping for some ideas of what to do around wengen that is covered by the saver day pass. So this means all the chair lifts are out of the question. I don’t want to venture out too far as I need to come back to collect my suitcases, the lockers at the station look a tad small, I’m not sure it can fit my suitcase.
I can’t believe it’s blue skies right now and tommorow it’s going to rain again. Hopefully it won’t be too bad on the brienz rothorn to the point I’ll be soaked.
My travel buddy went up to mannlichen today and said there appears to be more snow than yesterday.
One thing the saver day pass covers is the boats on the lake. So you could do that. Or go to Luzern and up the Rigi.
Interlaken is too far and I need to get to Chur by the end of the day.
Maybe I’ll do the Murren to Gimmelwald hike again. I vaguely recall the cableway from from Lauterbrunnen to Murren was covered. How about Gimmelwald back to wengen? Is that by train?
How about Gimmelwald back to wengen?
Gimmelwald down to the valley at Stechelberg. Postbus to Lauterbrunnen station. Train to Wengen.
or
Gimmelwald cable car one stop to Mürren. Walk across the village. Train to the end of the line, Grütschalp. Cable car down to the valley. Walk across the street to the train station, train to Wengen.
Thanks. Nigel are both options covered with saver day pass, I won’t have the Berner oberland pass anymore.
sorry, I know the routes like the back of my hand but have no clue about passes.
That’s okay, thank you
I am curious did you feel cold in the mountains after all? Did you have enough or too little or too much on?
I am curious did you feel cold in the mountains after all? Did you have enough or too little or too much on?
Ah yes let’s loop back on the outcome of this thread! Thank you to everyone that has chimed in!!! Much appreciated.
I was fine with a tshirt, light sweater and a Uniqlo down jacket, long cotton pants on all of the mountains. I started taking off layers as I started walking.
The only one I had trouble with was the brienz Rothorn, it was very cloudy and very cold, so I had an extra layer plus beanie plus a glove lol! And also brought with me one of those daiso hot packs that @Barkinpark suggested above which was a fantastic tip! I didn’t get much views today up in the mountains, I think on a good day, you probably don’t need so much layers
I also used a Uniqlo packable down jacket or my Lands End packable rain jacket with a thin long- sleeve top and a hoodie.
Carrie and Tommy, I also kept thinking we might be crossing paths. Tommy, we were also in Brienz today, but for the Ballenberg outdoor museum.
Yes we just have crossed !!! lol
Today was awful, the weather wasn’t too kind, the clouds kept appearing it was like Snow White up the top. Couldn’t see a thing
Just want to say a massive thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread. Just noticed there are 96 replies!!!
I’m leaving berner oberland today ** cries sob sob **. To those who are yet to visit or are here currently enjoy your trip and safe travels. It’s beautiful weather today!!! To the local folks, thank you for having me, Switzerland is definitely on my favourites list!
Until next time…..
Thank you again.
We are on the train to Luzern now and it is beautiful. Enjoy the rest of your trip.
