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Traveling to Switzerland with a 6 month old for 10 days... TIPS/OPINION welcome!

Hello,

My husband and I are making the decision whether to bring our six month old on our trip to Switzerland with five other family members. We have read that high altitude is not safe so we are aware of the risk. We would alter our daily activities to be more moderate/baby friendly rather than sticking to what we had planned (lots of hikes, movement). We are staying in an Air bnb for four days then hotel rooms for six days...

Our other option is leaving our baby in the states in the hands of trusted caregivers for..10 DAYS!! We are worried the stress of being away will impact our trip and also send our baby into a fussy state for 10 days.

Is this trip do-able and best for the baby to be with us?? I'm concerned about the time change affecting her during and after the trip.

Posted by
9079 posts

Not sure where you are reading about the altitudes And the effects on your baby.

Something to ask yourself. Do Swiss women have children?

Posted by
146 posts

Are any of the 5 other members of your party not able to stay with your baby, at your lodging, for the duration of a (presumably) 2-3 hour hike or outing? That would enable you to have your vacation, but still mostly be together.
Also not sure about the altitude ( except on mountaintops?) issue since the flights can be tough during take off and landing (although I just nursed mine if they weren't sleeping and it was fine), too
In the end this is likely going to be a question only you can make, with relevant family and the caretakers involved.

And what a lucky baby to have travel adventures ahead, whenever it happens!

Posted by
17225 posts

You and your baby will both be a lot happier together. There are so many negatives about being apart for ten days at that age I don’t know where to start, so I won’t.

Do not worry about the time change; it will affect you more than it will the baby. As for altitude, I believe the warnings about infants and high altitude apply to elevations above 6000 feet or more. But definitely check with your child’s doctor to confirm.

The good news is that babies that age are very portable and adaptable. It works best to use a front carrier and you can even hike with her that way, keeping the altitude restrictions in mind. We did a lot of hiking with mine at that young age. And then the older one took his own son to Ireland for 2 weeks when he was the baby was 7 months. They had a great time and met a lot of local people thanks to the child.

Try to reduce the number of flight connections on your way to and from—-a direct flight to Zurich would be ideal, if they exist. It is the take-off and landing that is hard on babies as the pressure changes in the aircraft are hard on their little ears. The general advise is to feed them during this time as the swallowing helps the ears adjust.

Posted by
6285 posts

Relative to the U.S., the mountains in Switzerland are not that high. I would talk to the baby's doctor. When we've traveled to high altitudes (Hawaii, Switzerland, Colorado, etc.) the key is to not jump off the plane and then proceed to the top of some peak. I think if you would get to a city, Wengen, for example, spend the day at that altitude and the next day go up to higher altitude.

Does your baby seem adaptable to changes in routine? That might make a difference. We took our 4 kids everywhere from about 3 months on. They became good little travelers. One of my sons and his wife have traveled with their now 2.5 year old a lot. He is a good little traveler, but of course, he's a little guy, so he needs to be accommodated, somewhat. They pick up food at Target so they always have something he'll eat. And, when they went to Hawaii from Minnesota, he was getting up at about 5 am. That, I feel is to be expected. At home, he has a fairly strict routine. But, while sightseeing in Hawaii, he just would nap when necessary whether it was on a hike or in a car. My other son has not traveled as much with their child and now when he does travel its more difficult. Obviously, there's differences in children.

Six months is a fairly nice age to travel with a baby. A toddler is more difficult on a plane. I would have had a hard time leaving a baby for 10 days, but everyone is different.

If your baby is breast fed, that would make it all super simple. If not, my grandsons' parents have a thermos type thing that heats up bottles. If possible, you might wait to start solid foods until after your trip. Again, talk to the doctor. If you need advice on front pack carriers or car seats or strollers, etc. let me know. I would advise bring OTC meds like tylenol and motrin, and know the dosages, again, talk to dr.

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One does not have to look far to find information on the possible risks of taking infants up high in the mountains where there is less oxygen available for their young brains.

This article addresses the lower blood oxygen levels of infants born and living at altitudes above 6800 feet. That 91% oxygen saturation level is low enough to cause concern, according to my husband (a doctor and hematologist). I assume Swiss doctors are aware of these numbers.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22123474/#:~:text=Neonates%20born%20at%20or%20above,to%20avoid%20hypoxemia%20or%20hyperoxia.

And this article presents the result of a survey of doctors in the French Alps on recommended altitudes for infants of various ages. For those under 12 months of age, the median recommendation for maximum altitude is 1600 meters (5200 feet).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37704526/#:~:text=Overall%2C%20to%20spend%201%20day,level%20in%20the%20ambient%20air.

It isn’t just the oxygen level; there is greater danger of dehydration at higher altitudes, as well as more exposure to UV and/or chilling winds, depending on the weather.

Many of us who hike and spend time in mountains are aware of this issue, including the OP. I know that we have been cautious about inviting small children to our timeshare condo in the Wasatch Mountains of Utah, at 8000 feet. We hike from there up to 11,000 feet. The toddlers stay at the condo in the pool with a parent.

With infants under a year the risk is even greater, because parents may not recognize the symptoms of acute distress from mountain sickness. A fussy baby can result from fatigue, hunger, or many other causes, as parents well know. So the condition may go unrecognized and untreated. But it certainly be avoided with proper care, and it sounds to me like these parents are aware and capable of making the right choices.

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Lola is absolutely right. It's also important to note that mothers living in places like Wengen or Mürren have likely carried their babies to term at those altitudes, where the infants have spent their entire lives. Despite this, the Swiss remain cautious when taking their babies for hikes, especially to higher altitudes.

Here are some guidelines put out by the Swiss Alpine Club. It is in German, but definitely worth running through a translation app like DeepL (very accurate) to see what they say. Being well prepared will give you greater confidence for your travels.

https://www.sac-cas.ch/de/die-alpen/bergwaerts-mit-dem-kleinkind-19776/

Here are some of the highlights:

  • Anything that stresses an adult body is even more threatening for little ones
  • Keep in mind that babies cool down more quickly and also overheat more quickly
  • Hypothermia can occur easily, even in the summer, especially if the child is sleeping or being carried on the back or in front of the chest. Check their temperature regularly.
  • Meticulously protecting facial skin from dry mountain air and ultraviolet radiation. Proper sunscreen, clothing, hats and glasses!

We have read that high altitude is not safe so we are aware of the risk.

Since you already know about this, I won't add anymore. You will find confirmation for your thoughts in the article as well. If you decide not to do any hikes, the above information will be helpful regarding just being outdoors in the mountain areas.

Posted by
11723 posts

For those under 12 months of age, the median recommendation for maximum altitude is 1600 meters (5200 feet).

Given that ( above) , the child probably should not be on the airplane to get to Switzerland, as typical cabin air pressure is equivalent to 6000-7000 ft elevation.

OP would be wise to consult with their doctor.

Posted by
16024 posts

When asked a similar question, Rick Steves said the best thing to do is drop them off at grandma's and grandpa's on the way to the airport. (LOL)

Posted by
19511 posts

Joe32F cabin pressure can be as much as 8000ft. The highest rail pass in Europe is in Switzerland and it's about 7300 feet.

Someone should tell the airlines before they get sued for letting children on the plane. Wouldnt it be wonderful to cross the atlantic and not hear a baby crying?

I paid the maid to watch my kids when I left town. They came out okay. More or less.

Posted by
912 posts

We left our 6 month old child home with his grandparents during a 10 day trip. There were no ill effects on him, and we were able to fully enjoy some adult time. (Plus his grandparents were thrilled to have him all to themselves) He was no longer being nursed, which factored into our decision. One question to consider is: how do the other five members of your traveling party feel about having a baby along on the trip? Have you discussed how this will affect them?

Posted by
9079 posts

My parents hiking in the Sierra Nevadas with me as a sweet baboo explains a few things.

Then they also drove me over Blood Alley
( Hwy 17 ) from Los Gatos to Santa Cruz in a 55 Ford without seat belts. And let me walk 8 blocks to elementary school by myself. Also got to eat Twinkies, watch Howdy Doody, and stay up past 9pm.

Could drive at 14 and one Summer when Mom was visiting her brother who was a Commander in the Air Force base in Greece I drove Old Betsy ( Davy Crockett fans will get it) over the hill to Santa Cruz for the day. 3 on a tree.

Our neighbor across the street ratted on me. Instead of being punished Dad was proud of himself for teaching me how to drive safely and with focus.

So guess all the high altitudes: Tiaoga Pass, June Lake, Mt Whitney, Mt Shasta, Mt Lassen didn’t bother my little grey cells .

Can you change a flat tire? Change the oil in your vehicle? Write a check? Count out change? Use a rotary phone? Boil a potato? Make oatmeal? Sew a button on your blouse or shirt?

Different times, different parenting attitudes. Different skill set.

Posted by
6285 posts

Survivorship Bias. . .
Lola, thank you for always taking the time to share your travel experiences and providing thoughtful information for trip planning.

Posted by
994 posts

Please keep replies focused on the OP's question as this thread is getting a bit off track. I edited back a few posts to try and keep this discussion on topic. Thanks, everyone.

Posted by
3254 posts

Native Californium here. For the record it is Tioga Pass, at 9000 feet, higher than most people go in the Berner Oberland.

Are you saying that your parents carried you as a baby to the top of Mt. Lassen, Mt Shasta, and MT Whitney?

That would be relevant to the OPs question as those altitudes are almost double the villages in the BO.

Posted by
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We just did eight days in Murren this summer with our four month old. It was not a problem. Feel free to message me directly with any questions!