I have read several posts and stared at ticket maps, etc. Maybe it is just late.
We (2 adults, 3 kids) are staying in Murren for four days. Coming in from Milan and leaving to Beaune, France. We are thinking about NOT doing rail passes in Italy and France as we are not on trains much. For Switzerland, however, I can't quite tell.
I am having trouble with the rough calculation for individual tickets. Looks, from the train-fare maps, that maybe by the time we go both into and out of Murren, we may be looking at about 160+ each...and without the Family pass that looks like it is only usable with another pass do the kids travel free? Looks like we can get one-day travel passes for 73 (16 for children) but a four day pass would be significantly more assuming we don't get eaten up on little trips around Murren that might be covered/discounted by the pass.
The other confusion I have is that I will be booking the tickets coming into Murren (at least into Spiez) from Italy so not sure I can get Swiss passes like that. We don't have a lot of time in stations as we jump from train to train coming in from Italy.
I am normally pretty calm about travel logistics, but this is pretty confusing to plan, somehow. I feel like this has probably been covered but I've read everything here I could find talking about Murren and each trip has its own little twists.
Thanks for any help.