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Train Passes - Lorrach DE to Murren CH, Berner Oberland

Hello - My family (2 adults, 2 children ages 10 + 7) will be visiting Switzerland in June; we will enter Switzerland via Lorrach Hauptbahnhof and head to Murren, where we will stay for 5 days, before taking train to Zurich for departure back to USA. Our plans in Murren are still quite loose, and include general areas of visiting Trummelbach Falls, Allmendhubel / Plz gloria, visiting Interlaken one day to trek with goats and possibly visit caves, and other general trekking and discovery of the area with our young children.

Can you recommend what train pass(es) we should buy, and whether we should buy them in advance or when we arrive?

I am also interested in general suggestions on what itinerary to make, if there are very good treks to recommend for young kids, or swimming in the area, etc.

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I cannot give a specific recommendation, as it all depends on how much travel you will be doing while you are in Mürren. The options are:
A) Just single tickets Lörrach - Basel - Mürren and Mürren - Zürich Flughafen (airport)
B) Swiss half fare card + half fare tickets
C) Tickets to and from the area, plus a Berner Oberland Card. I guess (no liability accepted) this would be best. See website: https://www.regionalpass-berneroberland.ch/en/

Either way, you need to buy a ticket from the machine at Lörrach HB from there to Basel. €3.40 for adults, €1.95 for children.
There is a train every half hour from Lörrach HB to Basel SBB.
Once at Basel SBB you can buy Swiss tickets for your onward journey.
If you choose the Berner Oberland Pass buy that online from the website (4 Days CHF 250, 6 Days CHF 310, children CHF 30). If your arrival day is one of your pass days, you only need to buy a ticket from Basel to Bern, the pass is valid thereafter.

When you leave, don't take the fast route, but the slower route: Mürren - Interlaken - Luzern - Zürich Flughafen. This is more scenic.

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There is a fourth option which should be considered: a Swiss Pass or Swiss Flex Pass. This likely to be better than a Berner Oberland Pass for four reasons:

It covers all travel within Switzerland from the border to Mürren and back to Zurich;

It includes the Schilthorn (Piz Gloria), fully covered (the BO Pass only covers 50%;

The two children will travel for free on the Family Card which can be requested with the Swiss Pass; and

Many museums are covered as well, and they may enjoy something like the Ballenberg Open-Air Museum.

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I agree with Chris that the Berner Oberland Pass is probably your best bet.
It will cover everything from Bern or Zurich on south, and all cable cars/trains around your destination. (Except just discounts on Schilthorn and Jungfraujoch.)

You mention hikes, so I'll send you a private mail (click on your name in upper right to check mail) on our dozen favorite hikes in the area.

Since you mention goats, I'll add that the Mannlichen to Kleine Scheidegg hike (our #1 hike in the area) has always had cows at Mannlichen, and 75% of the time we've come across goats as we approached Kleine Scheidegg. You should be able to pet the cows and goats if you use your common sense.

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The places where you come across the cows and goats on hikes depends on when you go there. I think they gradually graze their way up higher in the alpine mountains as the summer progresses and the weather warms up in the higher areas.

Mürren has a swimming pool in their recreation center, which also houses the Tourist Information center (Tourismus). There's an amazing, fun playground at Allmendhubel, which is a funicular ride above Mürren. It has a stunning mountain view. There's also an interesting playground at Winteregg, an easy walk or train ride (one stop) from Mürren. Or take the train from Mürren, since you're staying there, and get off the train at Grütschalp. From there, take the easy walk to Winteregg with the mountains in your view. After playing in the playground at the cafe there, take the train from there back to Mürren (or walk from there on to Mürren).

On the other side of the valley, Wengen has a playground, and Männlichen (a cable car ride up above Wengen) has a great playground, including a rustic child-size bowling alley with a view of the spectacular snow-capped mountain range. If your children can hike 2 1/2 miles, there's a fairly easy hike from that playground (take the colorful little slide, or the steps, down from the playground to the hiking trail) to Kleine Scheidegg. As the hike ends, the Grindelwaldblick restaurant at Kleine Scheidegg has a swing set and a lookout tower to climb up to. (Also has great food and great view.) On that same hike (from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg), about 2/3 of the way to the end, there's a look out area that has lots of benches for stopping to take a break there, snack and enjoy the view. There are also benches all along the way.

If you take the easy path down from Kleine Scheidegg to Wengernalp, which starts across the train tracks and roughly parallels it, (It's about 2 to 3 miles long) you'll walk through a cow-grazing pasture. Houses and huts sell cheese just past there, with signs that say, "Käse zu Verkaufen" (Cheese for Sale). Or you can take the train to Wengernalp and, from there, walk down under the train track and follow the signs to Wixi, right by there, to find the cheese huts and cows nearby.

Train passes cost the same price in Swiss francs whether you buy them in advance or at the Swiss train station when you need them. Although the passes that apply throughout the whole of Switzerland (Swiss Travel Pass, Swiss Travel Pass Flex, Half Fare Card) are available at train stations and Tourist Information (Tourismus) offices all over Switzerland, you can only buy the Berner Oberland Regional Pass at train stations and Tourist Info offices that are in the region where it's valid, so in your case, the first place you'll find it for sale, on your way to Mürren from Basel, is in the Bern train station. (Or you can buy it in advance on the internet.) You'll have to do the math, pricing how much is covered by each kind of pass with your own itinerary to know which pass is best for you.

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It is going to depend on what they do.

The Berner Oberland Pass does not start coverage at Zurich; it starts at Luzern or Bern. So they will have to pay for tickets to travel to one of those stations within the coverage zone.

And there is no free Family Card included with the BO Pass. They will need to pay 30 CHF for each child to get them free travel.

A 6-day BO Pass is 310 CHF, times2 is 620. Add 60 CHF for the two children, plus the cost of tickets from the point of entry and back to Zurich, for four travelers ( the child BO Pass is only good within the BO zone of validity). So probably over 700 CHF, plus the extra for the Schilthorn (50%) if they wish to do that.

They could get two 4-day Flex passes for 620 CHF, with no additional expense for travel to and from Mürren, or passes for the children. And they could ride up the Schilthorn for free with that pass, and travel to Ballenburg open-air museum, with free entry. There would be two days at Mürren with no free travel, but they could spend those days hiking or riding down to Lauterbrunnen, which is inexpensive.

But of course they should compare the Half Fare Card, which also includes a free Family Card.