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Train and bus station names for a one day travel, please

I planned a one day trip to experience Bernina line and some other interesting places. I found all the train and sub station names are confusing, it can be one city name with multiple surnames. The following is my itinerary.

June 6th - Poschiavo > Bernina Diavolezza (gondola to mountain top if weather permits, otherwise will skip) > Maloja Pass (Postbus) > Soglia (only possible if I skip Diavolezza) > Chiavenna (back to Italy) > Varenna Esino

I will purchase Saver Day Pass (CHF 52) for Switzerland travel to hope on/off. I understand I need purchase ticket for the section from the last Switzerland station to destination in Italy. May have check with station attendant.

Would someone point out the correct train/bus station name and where to change train/bus so I wont be left at station like a dummy. HELP!

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Are you starting at Varenna-Esino?

Tirano is just Tirano. The Swiss station is across the piazza from the Nord station where you arrive from Varenna.
The B 4 to Chiavenna goes from St Moritz train station. Just turn left walking out of the train station and walk about 100 ft and you will see the buses parked there. The B 4 is at stop "C". Get off on the last stop, Chiavenna Stazione. The train station is right there.

The Diavolezza cable car is at Bernina Diavolezza. The cable car is not included in the GA, so you will have to pay for that. Looks to be 44 CHF r/t, or 57 CH with lunch.

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The SBB travel planner has all public transport in Switzerland in it, so there are indeed a lot of stations and stops listed.

But in general the logic is like this:
- Stations are just named after the town. Eg. Bern, Lauterbrunnen, Tirano, etc...
- If there is more than one station some or all get something added: Zürich Hb, Interlaken Ost, Bernina Lagalb
Note how there is never a comma in the name. Pay attention, that is important.
- Bus and trams stops are always "Place name, stop". So "Lugano, Stazione Nord" is actually a bus stop called "Stazione Nord" in Lugano. This bus stop, is, as the name suggests, on the north side of the station. Notice how they always have a comma in them.
- Cable car and boat landing stages often get the suffix of the company operating them. So Lauterbrunnenl BLM is the BLM cable car station in Lauterbrunnen.

Note that picking the wrong stop is not that bad. If you were to pick Lauterbrunnen BLM for the start of a trip to Interlaken, then the trip planner will substitute the main Lauterbrunnen station as starting point.

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Thank you for the valuable information.

Q1. Are trains and buses equipped with digital runner to show station name?

Q2. If I use Saver Day Pass, on my last leg of trip from Switzerland back to Italy, either from St. Moritz or Soglio to Chiavenna, do I check with ticket counter attendant to purchase ticket for Italy section? I don’t know the last Switzerland stop/station name.

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I believe Chiavenna is in the GA area, so no adder is needed. I seem to recall a station indicator in the last Postbus I was on. Trains have them as well as announcements on the PA.

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My trip starts from Milan. First leg is Milan - Poschiavo.

Trenord has ticket Milan (13:20) -Tirano (16:05), transfer @ 17:00 - Poschiavo (17:36). Since it’s a regional train, if I missed 17:00 transfer at Tirano, I can just hop one the next train to poschiavo, is that correct?

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Tickets in Switzerland are for a route, not a train. So yes, you can take a later train. You can also make unlimited stopovers.

I assume that you are staying overnight in Poschiavo, and continuing the next day to St. Moritz and on to Chiavenna? In that case you would need for that day a Poschiavo - Chiavenna ticket, and can make as many stopovers (eg. Diavolezza, ) as you want.

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Thank you. That’s good to know how Switzerland train ticket works.

A very strange thing just happened to me! Yesterday, I was able to find ticket for Milan-Poschiavo, as I listed in my previous reply, on Trenitalia.it and Trenord.it websites. Now, Trenitalia.it shows ‘arrival station (Poschiavo) entered is incorrect’, Trenord.it shows ‘incomparable stations’ for Tirano-Poschiavo. I received the same result from several try.

When I tried on SBB.ch site, there’s no ticket for the schedule I found yesterday, depart Milan(13:20)-Tirano-Poschiavo(17:36).

What did I miss? Did railway companies changed their mind on route/schedule?

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No worries, I just checked Trenitalia and on June 5, the 13:20 train is going and arriving at Tirano at 16:05, and SBB says the 17:00 departure is going and will arrive at Poschiavo at 17:36.

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Thank you, Sam, for checking.

To prove I was’t crazy, I did the same search again on Trenitalia.it for Milan- Poschiavo in one segment, and it showed up without error message. I wish I could attach screen print here. We had total solar eclipse yesterday, maybe that’s why all the error messages.

I decided to overnight at Soglio after bus thru Maloja Pass because it’s such a beautiful and unique place. I was able to book a night at the historical Hotel Palazzo Salis.

My new itinerary:
6/5 Milan (Trenord #2826) 13:20 - Tirano 16:05/17:00 (regional express 1668) - Poschiavo 17:36
6/6 Poschiavo, Stazione (B 701) - Bernina Diavolezza (R 19) - St. Moritz, Bahnhof (B 4) - Promontogno, Posta (B 632) - Soglio, Plazza
6/7 Soglio, Plazza (B 632) - Promontogno, Posta (B 4) - Chiavenna (R) - Colico (R) - Varenna Esino

Q1: on 6/5, I assume I will only be able to find out if I can purchase ticket to Poschiavo in one segment at the Milano central station. Trenitalia.it website is funky, I suspect the validity of its display.
Q2: On 6/6, the only transportation from Poschiavo to Bernina Diavolezza is by bus. Will bus drive thru Bernina line, same as train? Will I miss the scenery route?
Q3: On 6/7, I found this schedule on SBB.ch site. SBB sells ticket to Chiavenna and Varenna-Esino in Ital, or is it just for information display only? Will I be able to purchase this itinerary in one segment at Soglio ticket counter?

This is a lengthy Q&A, thank you for your continuous support. I’ve learn so much unexpectedly.

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Some of the issues you are dealing with are due to different systems.

In Switzerland the SBB has a timetable and ticket selling system that can sell anything within Switzerland. It also has a link to the Trenitalia system, so it can sell you tickets to/from places in Italy. But when you do that you will actually get two (electronic fortunately) tickets. So you would in this case get a Milano - Tirano and another Tirano - Poschiavo.
The Trenitalia system is supposed to also have a link to the Swiss system, but it is not working as well yet.

To give you an example: I am going to Firenze next sunday. I booked Interlaken - Firenze on SBB, and got a SBB ticket for the Interlaken - Spiez part, a SBB-Trenitalia ticket for the Spiez Milan part, and a Trenitalia ticket for the Milan Firenze part. And I manage to load the Italian tickets in the Trenitalia app as well, so it is clear these came from the Trenitalia system.

I am not sure that you would be able to get a paper ticket from Milano to Poschiavo at Milano Centrale. However since you have a generous transfer time in Tirano you can just got to the RhB ticket office there, and get it. Or buy the Tirano - Poschiavo in advance on line, and Milano - Tirano at the station in Milan.
Trenitalia has recently made electronic ticketing for regional trains more complicated, but Trenord, which actually operates the trains in that area has decided to stick with the old "ticket is valid for 6 hour" rule, which is far more user friendly. But you can avoid the hassle by just getting a paper ticket.

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Q2: On 6/6, the only transportation from Poschiavo to Bernina Diavolezza is by bus. Will bus drive thru Bernina line, same as train? Will I miss the scenery route?

I see a train every hour from Poschiavo to Bernina Diavolezza on June 6, aproximately on the half hour. Some trains at 28 past, some at 32 past, some at 37 past the hour. I think you must be looking at today, as a rock slide has interrupted the train line a few days ago and they are still getting it cleared. SBB site shows regular train service running again on Thursday.

Q3: On 6/7, I found this schedule on SBB.ch site. SBB sells ticket to Chiavenna and Varenna-Esino in Ital, or is it just for information display only? Will I be able to purchase this itinerary in one segment at Soglio ticket counter?

I doubt there is a ticket counter in this tiny town. You can buy the ticket the day before at St Moritz station, or get the SBB app and you can buy tickets with your phone.

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I just discovered how to access individual train route details.

Trains from Poschiavo to St. Moritz will stop at Bernina Diavolezza ‘at request’. I assume there will be a button or pull-string for customer to request stop?

As Switzerland train ticket is per route allowing ticket holder to hop on-off at different stations, is it time specific? Does it allow passenger to get on the origination train ahead of/later than the schedule time on the ticket? I am sure there are passengers couldn’t make on time for various reasons.

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There maybe something like a button or cord, but notify the conductor you want to get off at Diavolezza. When you want to reboard the train, there will be a button on the platform to push that signalls the train that it needs to stop. I learned that the hard way.

A regular ticket is good on any train on that route all day.

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I haven’t thought about how to stop a train! These are important information to know.

Is Italian train ticket as flexible as Switzerland’s? All I know is that Trenord ticket is good for 6 hours and needs be validated online. Does Switzerland bus and train tickets need be validated before boarding?