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Swiss train pass and Berner Oberland Pass

We will be in Switzerland in September for 10 days and will be spending time in Lucerne, Grindelwald and Zermatt. We are buying the 14 day STP. Do we have to buy the Berner Oberland pass also? Is it worth the extra money to buy 1st class? My husband and I are in our 70’s and thought 1st class might be worth the extra money if we are assured a seat and less hassle with our luggage. Thank you for any advice.

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I'd go for first class in your case. The cars in 2nd class do get crowded in the popular areas and 1st is usually empty. You don't need a BO pass if you are getting the STP and you are not going to be spending a lot of time riding all the lifts and cogwheel trains up to mountains in the BO area and just spending time in Grindelwald.

Posted by
3125 posts

For my last couple of trips, I have purchased the 1st class Swiss Travel Pass and have found the additional expense well worth it. Less crowded trains and more room for luggage.

I was just in Switzerland last month. You might find my trip report helpful:

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/trip-reports/solo-in-switzerland-june-2024-my-trip-report

Make sure you have your passport handy on the trains as you may be asked for ID with the Pass. On past trips, a photo copy of my passport was accepted, but one conductor on my recent trip wanted to see my actual passport.

Have a great trip!

Posted by
116 posts

Thank you for your quick replies. While in Grindelwald we will be visiting the different sites and cities. Do I need the Oberland pass plus the STP pass?

Posted by
3125 posts

No, don’t get the Oberland Pass. The Swiss Travel Pass will cover you up to the mountain towns of Wengen and Murren. If you go higher than that, Schilthorn for example, you can just purchase a ticket. Show your Pass and you will get a discount.

If you click here and scroll down, you can see all that the Pass covers and what discounts you can expect:

https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/swiss-travel-pass/

Posted by
2493 posts

You do not "have" to buy any pass. You can always just buy tickets at the ticket office of the cable car or mountain railway you want to take. With the STP you get 50% off in most cases.
The Berner Oberland pass has a lot of overlap with the STP, so a bit of overkill. The HFC/BO pass combination is a good one though.

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Thank you for your help. I will just buy the STP and we should be good for our vacation in Switzerland. Can’t wait for September!