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How to calculate train between Lauterbrunnen and Lyon using swiss card

Hello :)

(Sorry for my English)

Might be a stupid question but if I buy the half fare card and the Berner Oberland card, how does it calculate for this one way train ticket between Lauterbrunnen and Lyon Part Dieu?

Using the half fare card it would be 70chf

The routing is: Lauterbrunnen Interlaken Bern Geneva Lyon..

Should I buy it separately to save money, as Lauterbrunnen to Bern would be free with the BO card so I would only pay Bern to Lyon.. or it's risky to "unmarry" train segments?

Not sure how it works :)

Thanks a lot

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If your BORP is active on your travel day, just buy a ticket from Bern to Lyon with your Half Fare Card. Like you say, Lauterbrunnn to Bern is free and there is absolutely no risk.

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78 posts

Ahhh nice :)

How does it work with the Berner oberland card. Can we still book trains in advance on the SBB application?

Or because its included on the BO card and free, you can't..

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20940 posts

You do not need to buy tickets in advance in Switzerland. You can buy same day and they are good on any trains on the selected route for the rest of the day. You just go to Bern and then take the next train to Geneva, then change to the next train to Lyon. The train from Bern to Geneva is a Swiss IC train with open seating, but you can buy a seat reservation for 5 CHF if you like. The trains to Lyon are French TER trains with open seating and no reservations.

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On The Sbb Website, the prices you see are the half fare prices (it assumes you have the half card). So if you are searching train tickets on there and you see 50 CHF, its actually 100 CHF. So just keep that in mind when looking at cost. Yes I would utilize your BO card to make the fare cheaper.

You can go to Google Maps, and look under the train icon. You can adjust the date and time of your departure and locations up to 90 days, it will show you the scheduled trains and buses and the platforms and connections they have. You can use this to assist you in planning the route. as its faster than SBB website

Example say you traveling Wed Aug 21st Lauterbrunned to Lyon at 8am
The first train option departs at 8:21 to Bern (Free with BO Pass), the train arrives in Bern 9:52Am
Now search in google maps with train icon, Bern to Lyon 10am departure time and you can decide what time works best for you and THEN search on the SBB website to actually purchase ticket in advance OR!!! Based on what I can see trains depart Bern to Geneva around 1030am and 11am, so you will also have enough time to purchase from the Kiosk in Bern a ticket right then and there, if you are nervous about booking in advance and missing your connection.

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You do not have to worry about missing a connection. If you miss a connection due to a delayed train you can just take the next one. And anyway, normal tickets are for a route, not a train. On Bern - Lyon you will be travelling on normal SBB trains and then on SNCF regional trains. Contrary to air travel your connection is protected even if you are on separate tickets, or, as in this case, one part is on a pass, and another on a ticket.

So just book in advance a ticket from Bern to Lyon, to save you having to go to the ticket office (you cannot get this from a kiosk, that only sells snacks and sigarettes).

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Woww thanks a million for these replies. You make my life easier. The day after we will leave from Lyon airport so we can not miss any connections but reading you I feel better.

I would feel less stressed to buy tickets in advance but as someone mentioned thay if you miss a connection you just go an another train it sounds easy..

I thought the ticket would be for an entire sequence (Lauterbrunnen to Lyon) and that it was risky to separate the tickets. If that is as flexible as you all say, I am speechless. Understanding the Swiss railway system and cards is hard ah ah but the rest seems so great and flexible. Love it <3

Yes we will have half fare card and BO and i understood that SBB fares display half fare card.

So for all the trains included in the BO card no need to book any options in advance at all?!? It will be high season.

Not risky? Never sold out? Even on a saturday in July?

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Swiss trains do not "sell out". Maybe no seats, then you stand until a seat opens up. In practice, this would only happen at rush hour on a commuter train because the trains are so frequent. Between Bern and Geneva there is a direct train every 30 minutes. The ones at 34 past the hour are express, making only 2 intermediate stops, and the ones at 4 past the hour make 6 intermediate stops, so take a little longer. The express (IC) trains are double decker, so there are a lot of seats on the train. The fact that it is Saturday, means no business travelers on board.

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Oh..., I could also go as follows maybe? :)

Leave Lauterbrunnen early in the morning and go to Bern with the BO card. No tickets bought in advance.

Visit the city during a few hours if that is a nice city :)

Buy in advance the train from Bern to Lyon Part Dieu later in the day using the half fare card.

It will be on a saturday during July. High season. Are you sure none of these trains could be sold out?

Thanks a million

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See my edit.

Trains can't sell out because a ticket purchased for that day is valid on any train on that route that day. Add to that people traveling on rail passes that can hop on and off any train without a ticket. The only way to guarantee a seat is to buy a seat reservation for a particular train for 5 CHF, and these are only available on IC trains. This would be fairly unusual in Switzerland, again because of the train frequency. Buying a ticket in advance gives you no more right to a seat than someone who buys a ticket with their app while standing on the platform. First come, first served so to speak.

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Ah you are right :) Maybe not the most touristic routing then :)

What do you think about my idea to visit Bern to avoid being on a train for 6h and have a bit of fun during the day. Bern seems nice :)

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Sure, stop in Bern for a few hours. Store your luggage in a locker and tour the city. Buy a local transit pass to ride the trams. That is how Albert Einstein dreamed up the Theory of Relativity.

A 1-day transit pass for Bern is 6 CHF with your Half Fare Card.