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Everything you ever wanted to know about how we got to Wengen (but were afraid to ask)

Let me preface this by explaining that I lead my ski club's trips to Europe. The following true story happened in January 2008. I have changed the names to protect the innocent.

So here are the gory details. We got to Chicago and boarded without incident. The plane was completely full, we had about a third of the main cabin seats ourselves and another 25 from Lakeshore Ski Club in Chicago all going to Wengen. We landed on time at 11:30 in the morning, got luggage (a couple of people who flew in to Chicago had missing bags) and breezed through customs, met four people who arrived the day before, and then the fun began.

I had asked the people waiting for us in Zurich to keep on the look out for our charter buses so we would have them located when we arrived. No one saw them. I went out and began the search. Several buses are there, but none for our group. I’m getting worried. I saw the Lakeshore group loading, and I asked their driver if his company had any other gigs booked here. No. I walked around the airport and located the charter bus holding area. There were several buses there, but they all had signs in the window, “Berlin Philharmonic”. Since no one brought so much as a harmonica, I was unable to convince them to pick us up. Back at the arrivals hall, our group of 68 was huddled together with their luggage carts, all looking at me with one question on their faces, “What’s going on, Sam?”

At this point, I began working on Plan B. It was 1 PM now and the troops had been hanging around for an hour and getting restless. I got a call into our tour operator from a pay phone (US cell phones don’t work in Europe), but as it was 6 AM in Chicago, I only got his answering machine. “There are no buses at Zurich Airport for our group. If they are not here in one hour, I’m going to the train station and buying 69 rail tickets to Wengen. Page me at Zurich Airport.”

With that, I began implementing Plan B. In Europe, most big airports have train stations right in the airport, and Zurich has a particularly good one. Across the street down stairs of the parking garage I went to get particulars. At the ticket counter, when I inquired about 69 tickets to Wengen, the agent said to go around the corner to the travel office for such a tall order. At that point, I heard myself being paged. I ran back to the arrivals hall, and found DW on the Information desk phone and motioning me over. It was our tour operator. Seems his secretary had forgotten to book our buses, and Plan B was now a reality. I told him to stop apologizing, so I could get to work.

Back at the train station travel office, I explained my needs to the nice girl. No problem. Then I asked if we could get a group discount. “Hmm.. Normally, that must be reserved 72 hours in advance. I’ll check.” She went in the back office for a few minutes and came back. “OK, but we can’t give you your own rail car.” No problem, lets go, and I hand over my credit card, glad that I paid off the balance before I left. “You need to have your group on track 3 at 2:11. The train only stops for only 2 minutes, so you must have your group spread out on the platform and on board by 2:13. Swiss trains leave precisely on time. Otherwise you will have difficulties making your connections. Are they ready?” I look at the clock and its 10 to 2. “Start printing the tickets and I’ll get them down here.”
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Back to the arrivals hall; “Follow me! We’re on our way.” I lead everyone across the street and down stairs and assembled at the escalator to track 3. I run in the office, sign the slip for $3400.00 and get 69 2nd class tickets and one itinerary with all our connections. I go back and tell Wifey to lead everyone down to track 3 and spread out. Now the nice girl at the SBB office (Swiss National Railways) neglected to tell me one thing, what section of the platform 2nd class was to board. We got everyone on the platform, and I started to hand out tickets, when at 2:11 the train pulls in. Get on board! I noticed, however, that all the cars in front of us had a big “1” on them. Never mind, all aboard!

Once we pulled out of the station, I began moving up and down the train, making sure everyone had a ticket, and they knew that we we’re getting off at Bern in about one hour, and we would arrive on track 4 and change to track 7 for our next train. A few of the more perceptive of the group found the dining car and sat and ordered drinks. After a brief stop at Zurich Central Station, it was non stop to Bern. It was then that the conductor began his rounds.

Now there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between the 1st class and 2nd class railcars, but in a 15 car train, the lead 7 cars are 1st class, the dining car is in the middle, and the back 7 cars are 2nd class. First class costs about 50% more than second class, and the only reason to ride first class is you do not have to put up with American ski groups. So the first ticket he checks he sees is a second class and tells them they have to move to the second class section of the train. Then another, and another, and thus began the Great Swiss Railway Exodus. The only way to 2nd class is through the dining car, knocking over table clothes, getting cursed in German, until one of our group turned and said “Ich verstehe Deutsch, Dumkopf!” which brought howls of laughter from the rest of the car. The waiter in the car is getting irritated and stops everyone so he can get between the kitchen and the tables. In back, another waiter who goes thru the train with a little airline beverage cart selling drinks is yelling at us to move because he has to get back to the dining car to refill his cart. The two waiters start arguing with each other as to who is more important. The conductor is beginning to regret his actions. “Why you people board on wrong section of platform! Is the same in all countries, yours too. Section A and B, 1st class, sections C and D 2nd class.” “Are you kidding? We’re from America, and we’ve never even seen a passenger train, let alone ridden in one.” Finally he said just leave your luggage in 1st class, but move to the second class section. TR was buried in luggage with just his head sticking out. The people who grabbed a table in the dining car are on their third round of beers and enjoying all of this immensely.

So, with 10 minutes left before pulling into Bern, everyone was in their proper place. Wifey and I slammed a quick Heineken in the dining car as we pulled into the station and I jumped up to make sure everyone got off the train with their luggage. Standing on the platform with the last one off, Wifey looks at me and says “Where is your ski jacket” Since they keep the temperature a mild 80 degrees on the train, somewhere on the train was my jacket, but on which of the 15 cars I’d been up and down 3 times, I knew not. “It’s gone. I’ll buy another.”
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We had 35 minutes at Bern before our next train, and we got everyone over to track 7. Now was a good time to address the troops. Everyone one wants to know where we get off for the next change. So I run up the platform stairway a few steps and shout “Interlaken Ost”. Where? Repeat after me “Interlaken Ost” Everybody, all together now. “Interlaken Ost, Interlaken Ost.” There, that ought to do it. First question asked. “Sam, where do we change trains again?”

We got on our next train south to Interlaken. Actually, Interlaken Ost was the terminus, but Interlaken has 2 train stations; West and Ost. As we traveled along the Thuner See, the lake west of Interlaken, our destination came into sight: the Eiger, the most famous mountain of the Bernese Oberland. NW could not find DW and feared he did not get off at Bern. He’ll find his way eventually.

At Interlaken Ost we have only 7 minutes to make our next connection. This is on the Berner Oberland Bahn to Lauterbrunnen and only 20 minutes away. There we will change to the Wengneralp Bahn for the 15 minute ride up the mountain to our final destination. The station at Lauterbrunnen has experienced attendants, so though there were 3 trains waiting, they shouted in English. “Get on any train! They're all going to the same place.” Because of the narrow gauge and tight turns, instead of sending one train coupled together, they send them up 3 at a time spaced about a hundred feet apart. DW was never lost to begin with so we all made to out hotels in Wengen in time for a brief reception and dinner.

Oh yeah, the lost ski jacket. Ewan the Scot at Molitor Sport, where we rented skis said. “You’d be surprised what the Swiss Rail can do. File a lost article claim.” So after much prodding from Wifey, "I bought you that jacket and it was $250. Get to work.” Since ski jackets in Wengen were all in the $400 and up category, I walked over to the station and told my story. The agent gave me a card to file a lost article claim on the internet. When I got around to doing this on Tuesday (a vest was all you needed to ski in the first three days) I was directed to the SBB lost and found site where I filled in a form with type, (luggage, clothing, etc.), date lost, train #, description (Columbia ski jacket, black and grey) where I was staying, and email address. When I hit “send” up popped 6 articles of clothing left on Swiss trains on that date and % chance that it was mine. No. 1 was “Ski Jacket, hell/dunkel grau schwarz, Columbia”. After remembering my 10th grade German, hell is “light” dunkel is “dark", grau is “grey” and schwarz is “black” that looked like it. I called the number they gave and they said they had it! Where do I want it delivered? Wengen station. 10 CHF service charge and it would be there Thursday. And on Thursday I had it back. End of story.

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Great story, and a good result.

I must admit—-I guessed the happy ending. Switzerland is that kind of place.

But not the only place with a good lost and found system.

My husband left his iPad on a British Airways plane when we landed at Heathrow last March. He did not realize it until we were through immigration and it was too late to return to the plane. We checked the Heathrow Lost Property office that day and the next; no joy. So we went through the Heathrow lost property website and registered the lost item, by model (iPadPro with facial recognition), size (11 inch), case description. It was several days before some likely matches appeared on the website (I was amazed at how many lost iPads show up there each day). We picked the most likely, “claimed” it on the website, and got a response asking for the serial number. Once we provided that, we just had to pay the service fee and express shipping back to the US. It arrived several days (and £180) later.

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Best “travel-trials” story ever! 🤣
You are a hero, Sam! 🥇
I bet the staff on board the first train are still talking about that day……

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whew!! You do have adventures!!! At least they are 16 years apart. You know how to throw a party though!!

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Nominate Sam for Doozie Story of the Year

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You are my kind of "make-it-happen" person :)

Question:

Did the company that handled the bookings (a la the missing buses on arrival), reimburse you for all the train tickets? Hope so.

My guess is that you also quickly decided you never want to make your living being a full-time group tour guide.

At least you have the great memories and a story for the ages. Events like this are always so much funnier in the rear view mirror, right? Although it sounds like you were also able to "see the humor in the moment," too.

Thanks for the chuckles.

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Yes, I was fully reimbursed and upon arrival at the hotel every one got a half bottle of wine delivered to their room except me. I got a full bottle.

I will add to my exchange with Ewan at Molitor. When I expressed skepticism that I would ever get it back, he just threw up his arms and exclaimed "Oh, I don't know what I'm talking about! I've only lived here for 10 years!" Pause. "The system works, try it!"

Yes, in retrospect, everybody recalls how much fun the trip was. Not a boring bus ride, but a real adventure.

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What a great story Sam !!

There were several buses there, but they all had signs in the window, “Berlin Philharmonic”. Since no one brought so much as a harmonica....

My favorite element !! Worth the price of admission on its own

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Thanks for the entertainment, Sam! We have fond memories of landing in Zurich and taking all of those trains on our arrival day from Seattle to wake up the next morning in gorgeous Wengen.

I’m amazed you didn’t lose anyone on the Interlaken 2-stations choice!

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We had 35 minutes at Bern before our next train, and we got everyone
over to track 7.

You had 5 minutes. Forcing people to wait 35 minutes for a train would have caused a revolution...

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That section A and B is always 1st class is not the case. It would be impossible to implement this in practice as trains aren't always oriented the same way. Ie. in Bern 1st class will mostly be in sectors A-B for trains to Zurich, but will be in E-F for most trains to Basel.

What SBB does well is inform you however. The departure displays on the tracks show you where first and second class will be, and they have been doing that for decades. Even the old mechanical ones did this already.

The typical base IC service has 3 1st class cars, a restaurant car and 4 2nd class cars. 8 cars in total, but often extra modules are added. On the Main st. Gallen - Geneva corridor most trains are now 2x8 cars.

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In answer, this happened 16 years ago and this is my original write-up with a bit of light editing. As far as the number of carriages and the composition, its just an impression I had at the time. I was not worried about accuracy of minor technical details. All I know is I ran up and down the length of the train at least two times, checking the upper and lower decks of a duplex train set accounting for everyone.

35 minutes was the change time in Bern, of that I am certain.

As far as platform sections, this all I recollect from the speech by the exasperated conductor. Maybe just a a quick and dirty explanation of how the system works. After all, he was speaking English, not his native language. And I am not sure they had electronic train composition diagrams on the overhead departure signs in 2008, but I could be wrong. They used to have printed train composition diagrams for all the different trains on a sign board on the platform.

I think the conductor mistook us for Brits when he said "...same in your country." Most of us Americans only know about passenger trains from what we see in the movies.

Now there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between the 1st class and 2nd class railcars

Yes that is a bit of an exaggeration. The point being that 2nd class is perfectly comfortable.

Two weeks ago, I had the pleasure of taking an IC train direct from Zurich Airport to Visp, and i relived some of these scenes. I was in 1st class, legally this time, and I boarded from platform sector C as 1st class carriages were at the end of the train (or until it left Bern where it changed directions). I observed that you can no longer pass through or enter the dining car at the upper deck from 1st class. You have to walk down the stairs at the entry, then walk to the other end of the lower deck and back up the stairs to enter from that direction. SBB must have learned something from that fateful day.

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What a story! That would have caused me so much anxiety, I would probably still be trying to get over it. Personally, I think you deserved a case of wine.

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Funny, Sam, thanks for taking the time to share. I don't think I'd push it and leave a third item on the trains.....

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It is an interesting write up :-)

Swiss school groups travel by train too, but they do not have issues, as the kids are used to it. So they will take the 5 minute transfer in Bern in stride. (and yes, that was possible in 2008 too. Swiss train schedules don't change that much over time.)

One thing however that was different in 2008 was that the new underground long distance station (Tracks 31-34) in Zurich Hbf wasn't there yet. All long distance trains went to the main level. And Swiss Railways then did arrange the consists so that the 1st class was always at the head of the train, closest to the concourse.

Things have changed. But they do not change that fast. SBB plans its schedules decades ahead, and already has a pretty good idea what its schedule will be in 2035 and 2040....

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Well, maybe the agent at Zurich airport figured that a 5 minute connection that was not cross-platform at Bern would be too challenging for 69 American rookies burdened with heavy luggage for a ski vacation (some even brought their skis, against my advice) and adjusted the transfer time accordingly. We managed the 7 minute transfer at Interlaken Ost that required use of the under passage plus the added complication of needing to board the carriages going to Lauterbrunnen. Might have been station attendants shouting instructions there as well.

BTW I have another amusing tale from this trip that has nothing to do with trains or lost articles. I will post if anyone expresses interest.

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OK Nigel, coming right up with the post "Ms F, Why you...?"

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Sam, excellent story and one that gave me my first (well, more than one) laugh of the day! I could totally see this being made into a movie. You have a real gift for imagery.