How much time should I budget getting to and from Mt. Pilatus from Lucerne, while enjoying some photographing, light hiking and tobogganing along the way. If I take the early train to Alpnachstad, can I do all the above in a leisurely manner and be back in Lucerne by 5 p.m.?
How about Mt. Rigi? I don't need to be back by any particular time, but would like to know how much time to budget.