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Back from Switzerland - Advice and Tips (B.O. and Zurich-focused)

Hey all, I just got back from a week in Switzerland, give or take, and wanted to share some tips that will help fellow travelers.

1) I find it VERY hard to believe that a Swiss Pass will EVER be worthwhile for you, unless you're doing a ton of cross-country train trips. I heartily recommend the half fare card. It is SO easy to buy train tickets -- either on your phone (get an international sim card when you land!) or at any ticket booth.

2) Buy an international sim card when you land. For most folks, I think Sunrise is your best bet. You can buy it at the airport, downstairs near where the train station links to the airport.

3) Get the half fare card when you land. We had to wait in line for a bit--make sure you get a number! Don't just get to the end of the line -- you have to go in, take a number (like you're at the deli counter) to get the number at most SBB official offices.

4) The Zurich self-guided RS walking tour is rewarding, but far less rewarding when you do it on a Sunday. Everything is closed. We had no choice when we went, based on our itinerary, but if you have a choice, do Zurich on a weekday!

5) As with all of his walking tours, I find you need to double, or even triple the time RS says to allot for his walking tour. The way we do it, we read the tour as we walk -- that takes up time. Photos take time. Water breaks take time. Even on a Sunday, our Zurich walking tour was almost three hours, including one church.

6) For Berner Oberland/mountain villages, you MUST download the Swiss Meteo weather app. It is SUPER accurate for mountain villages and peaks such as Schilthorn and Jungfraujoch. We used it to plan our itinerary of when to do both.

7) We did James Bond brunch at Schilthorn, and you book the brunch timeslot online (free to book), but they don't make you keep that timeslot! Then we bought tickets in person at the ticket window, and it was something like 62 CHF per person roundtrip, INCLUDING brunch. We didn't arrive super early, so I think the ticket person was just nice and gave us the VERY discounted rate, even though we said we only had half-fare cards.

8) In Lauterbrunnen, the folk museum is likely worth it, if you're there for their opening hours. Make sure to ask if you can get a quick tour from the person at the front desk -- we were helped by a young woman who was so friendly and made the museum much more enjoyable. Not sure it would have been worthwhile without her.

9) Do not bother doing the walk behind Staubbach Falls in Lauterbrunnen. You probably won't heed my advice if you're there, but don't say I didn't warn you. Medium work, absolutely no reward.

10) RS says the North Face hike to the Sprutz Fall is "dangerous." We are active, and in our thirties, but we aren't professional hikers by any means, and we didn't find it to be dangerous in the least. Adding Sprutz made this a three triangle hike for sure. The best way to do North Face walk is to go up on a sunny day on one of the first funiculars to Allmendhubel. (Pre-10am). At Pension Suppenalp, and get a breakfast bite at around 10:30/11am. Ask for fresh cream! Continue the North Face trail through Sprutz. You'll finally arrive at Gimmelwald for lunch, where you have two fantastic options of Mountain Hostel or Pension Gimmelwald (or both).

11) Do paragliding. But don't eat lunch beforehand. It isn't scary at all, and I am NOT a fan of heights. Totally worth it, even with a bit of...sickness.

12) The walk to the mountain hut at Jungfraujoch is HARD. Just because of the footing. It's not scary or anything, but wWhen it's sunny (which is hopefully when you choose to go,) the terrain is slush. You need good snow walking shoes. ALSO, leave your gear in the provided (3 CHF??) lockers! It's a HOT walk. You don't want thick coats or bags. The food takes a while to arrive when you get there. But you get to walk on a glacier.

If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to help!

-Dave

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Great tips!! Thanks for taking the time to share them. Although, I do have to disagree with you on the Swiss Travel Pass. 😊 I’m a huge fan and have more than gotten my money’s worth on my 2 recent trips. But that’s one of the great things about Switzerland—multiple pass options for different situations.

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Thanks for the trip report!

It has been about 5 years since I've been in Switzerland, but I can't recall the RS guide covering Zurich. Maybe its there now. Is that where you found the Zurich walking tour?

Could you expand on the SIM card? I have Verizon so if I want service I have to pay $10/24 hours. I usually get by with wifi at hotels, museums, coffee shops and restaurants. I don't need it for navigation, I use maps.me offline. I would like to occasionally look up something or make a phone call.

When I went to Switzerland with my girls, I did a quick analysis prior to the trip to determine if I should get a Swiss Travel Pass. I decided that I would at least come close, and I think I did. My girls were 20 so I do recall their tickets were cheaper. We also used it for Schilthorn, Rigi, Chateau Chillion and museums in Luzern and Bern. We were also up and down a fair amount in BO.

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Thanks for the trip report! It has been about 5 years since I've been in Switzerland, but I can't recall the RS guide covering Zurich. Maybe its there now. Is that where you found the Zurich walking tour? Could you expand on the SIM card? I have Verizon so if I want service I have to pay $10/24 hours. I usually get be with wifi at hotels, museums, coffee shops and restaurants. I don't need it for navigation, I use maps.me offline. I would like to occasionally look up something or make a phone call. When I went to Switzerland with my girls, I did a quick analysis prior to the trip to determine if I should get a Swiss Travel Pass. I decided that I would at least come close, and I think I did. My girls were 20 so I do recall their tickets were cheaper. We also used it for Schilthorn, Rigi, Chateau Chillion and museums in Luzern and Bern. We were also up and down a fair amount in BO.

RS covers Zurich, but does not cover Geneva. Perhaps you're thinking of Geneva? I was in Switzerland back in 2012 and he covered Zurich then, as well.

In terms of a SIM card, Sunrise works well if you have a verizon phone. Basically, it came to 30 CHF for a week? Maybe less? So much better deal than paying through Verizon. And that gets you data and calling. Helpful where you're lost on a mountain and need to determine where you are!

Based on the pricing of the Swiss travel pass right now, I find it so hard to come close -- I can share our travelling itinerary, if it's helpful. It doesn't cover Schilthorn or Jungfraujoch. The half fare card is actually BETTER for Jungfraujoch and I think either better or same benefit for Schilthorn.

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I'm sure you are right on Zurich. Maybe in was Basel that I thought he ignored.
When We were in BO, Schilthorn was half price. For a couple years, it was covered in full.
We will be in France and Spain for a bit over 3 weeks. Do you think that the SIM card you purchased would be enough? What did you do with the original SIM card in your phone? I'm so nervous we'd lose it. Would U.S. people be able to reach us on our U.S. phone numbers via texts when we have Wifi?

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I'm sure you are right on Zurich. Maybe in was Basel that I thought he ignored.
When We were in BO, Schilthorn was half price. For a couple years, it was covered in full.
We will be in France and Spain for a bit over 3 weeks. Do you think that the SIM card you purchased would be enough? What did you do with the original SIM card in your phone? I'm so nervous we'd lose it. Would U.S. people be able to reach us on our U.S. phone numbers via texts when we have Wifi?

I think you need to get a different sim card in each country. Just put it in a pocketbook or something. What we did was I kept my U.S. phone on airplane mode and texted with wifi, and my wife got the sim card. That way, we had the best of both worlds.

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Hi David, Thanks for the tips! I was wondering if you could manage with just a credit card for purchases, or if you think it would be helpful to get some CHF at the airport or ATM beforehand? Thanks!

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Hi and thanks for the great tips. I planned on buying my half fare card online before I left for Switzerland, mostly because I planned on buying some of my train tickets as soon as they become available. Did you book any trains before you left?

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Sorry for the late responses to both of you above. A debit card with no withdrawal fee, and a credit card with no exchange fee, is all you need. The Swiss rarely use cash. I think I used cash in two places out of dozens and dozens.

There is absolutely no need to book any train tickets or half fare card in advance, UNLESS you are going on "scenic rail journeys," and therefore need to book a seat for a view. For any point to point travel, unlike Amtrak, there is no discount to booking in advance. Just wait till you get there. Maximizes your flexibility. And it's super easy to buy train tickets there. You'll thank me later.
You can buy the half fare card when you land.

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There is absolutely no need to book any train tickets or half fare card in advance

However you might want to buy in advance the limited number of Super Saver train tickets that are for a specific train and time. These are made available a month in advance and listed half the full price and then if you have a Half Fare Card you get 50% off that.

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Blockquote However you might want to buy in advance the limited number of Super Saver train tickets that are for a specific train and time. These are made available a month in advance and listed half the full price and then if you have a Half Fare Card you get 50% off that.
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To be fair, I was unaware of this option. Thank you for making us aware! But for me, I wouldn't have taken this option, even had I known. The worry of making a certain train or limiting my stay in a certain location based on a train time simply isn't worth it. I think there's a price at which it becomes worth it, but outside of Jungraujoch, none of our tickets cost too much.

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Yeah I bought all Super Savers only on my first trip out of 4 to Switzerland and had no kind of pass; I did not know how much I was going to like it there so it seemed lower risk; I imagine mostly the locals who commute to work from another town all have Half Fare cards buy Super Savers.